Capital Talk (Is Agha waqar Fraud ??) – 29th august 2012
Agha Waqar Joins Hamid Mir in Capital Talk on Geo News -29th August 2012
Capital Talk (Is Agha waqar Fraud ??) - 29th august 2012,
Agha Waqar Joins Hamid Mir in Capital Talk on Geo News -29th August 2012
Capital Talk (Is Agha waqar Fraud ??) - 29th august 2012,
The idiotcrusher has been crushed to silence. Wish he had the courage to face the truth. Alas this nation is full of self proclaimed pseudo intellectual like him but deliver nothing. Their example is like donkeys who are burdened with books but have no knowledge.
Without considering the obscene language used by @ wakeup (or Dung Beetle as @Mirror would call him), let us analyse the objections raised by him (actually I should say it instead of him) one by one on my earlier posts and find out the reality.
1. He says: Of course if you fix Mangla Dam on top of your Suzuki Mehran, it will supply enought energy to drive the junk forever but is that possible?
My response: who has proposed doing that? Not me.
He says: The Sun is hot because of the Big Bang and is slowly losing its heat– it will not live forever.
My response: the current theory about sun does say so. But that's not the full story? Science also talks of a continuous fusion reaction going on in sun which helps it sustain it's energy. There have been attempts by scientists to carry out cold fusion. You know how? By using water. Interestingly, there were positive results but idiots like DB and other cronies like him dismissed the idea impulsively. You know why? Because the one who did it using far less resources threatened the livelihood of government owned expensive researchers. All this happened in 1989. Many other scientist around the world replicated the experiment and did observe cold fusion. And now the scientist in NASA have decided to explore the possibility of cold fusion again. They also have met with some success. So what is cold fusion? Without going into the nity gritty of the process it suffices to mention that using techniques similar to electrolysis it was observed that heat produced was many times more than what the input energy could generate. In other words it was producing more than 100% of input energy. What you call such a machine? You guessed it right, a perpetual motion machine. So will it last for ever? The answer is a BIG NO. Nothing in this world is immortal or eternal. Everything will die down one day. So will such a machine when the water disappears. Should we be concerned with that? Again NO. You need abundant energy resource which fuels your development without the fear of depletion. So if sun dies down in billions of years we are not concerned with that. But the fact remains that it has been alive for billions of years and it will continue to remain like that for billions of years providing enough of energy for all living beings on earth. If you invent a machine like that under your control the perpetual motion is achieved. The cold fusion is the answer. Very soon laws of physics and thermodynamics will be rewritten. But the problem with DB and likes of him is that they don't want you to work or think in that direction because their masters have ordered them to do so.
He says: And your “perpetual motion machine” humans, what of those? Have you ever seen malnutritioned kids in sub Saharan Africa? See how little they eat and how much work they do because according to you twat, they should be able to produce more energy with nothing. The fact is the poor souls can barely breath and die a premature, terribel death.
My response: I never claimed what he states. What I said is very clear. Healthy, well fed living creatures including DB actually put out more energy than they consume. Isn't that true? You decide for yourselves. Just remember how much money you earn and what portion of it you spend on food and the answer will be clear. However, I must clarify that there is a minimum requirement of energy for any machine to work. Go below that level and it won't work. So are malnutritioned people.
He says: And the best solar cell is only 40% efficient. It is far from perpetual motion.
My response: DB is right. But his full of hatred head does not recognise something extremely important or may be he does not want you to know that for fear of annoying his pay masters. When was it that you discovered that despite living in oceans of enormous energy you can't harvest it at will? Not until photosensitive electronic devices called solar cells were invented. Similar is the case of harnessing the wind and hydraulic energy. When you see all machines which convert one form of energy into another form you will find they obey the laws of physics so far. Their output is less than input. Not a perpetual motion machine, right? Thats true in a closed system. Like the efficiency of turbines which convert hydro power into electric power. But when you consider an open system, the picture changes. If there is continuous flow of input energy there will be continous output of another easily controllable form of energy, water to electricity, wind to electricity, ocean waves to electricity, light to electricity. Even petrol/diesel to electricity. The efficiency of the machine is net gain in conversion of energy. That's what you call an over unity machine. For open systems the laws of thermodynamics are not applicable.
OK, over to the water powered cars. Here are some details to ponder about. You need an electrical process (machine) to convert the water into hydrogen and oxygen. According to the current techniques and knowledge of water chemistry it is not possible to use electrolysis (use electricity) to generate enough energy to keep the electric source available for continuous process or if you do make a source available the economics of the system make it non-feasible. What is the source of energy here? It's water. Is water, say a litre of water, has enough energy to run an engine. Yes it has. Then what is the problem. The problem is lack of human knowledge to design a machine that puts out more electrical energy from water then the electrical energy used in decomposing water. Can such a machine be made, the answer is a 100% yes. Many people have reported to have done that but without the ability to sustain the process. If that difficulty is removed the story will end. Will such a machine be a perpetual motion machine. In a closed system no, in an open system yes like the solar cell etc. Who will do it? Of course a gora. Why can't we do it? Because we have not done such a thing in centuries orWe lack knowledge or the will or the likes of BD will not let us do that. You decide for yourself. PEACE.
You slimy frog, now you are getting a bit closer to a scientific discussion. Tell me, did you cut paste this info from somewhere because all your postings before ths were simply wishful rants to support the Agha jerk, just becuasebhe is a Muslim from Pakistan. I would love to have some real scientists like Dr. Salam amongst us, not criminal fraudsters like Agha. How can you defend him without having any scientific proof that he has done what he says? If you are a scientist, you will demand rigorous testing and proof. I never said that new discoveries cannot be made– far from it. But they need to vetted in a scientific manner before we start pinning the medals to,our collars. I will be the happiest person if a Pakistani invents something great but please, don't make us embarrassed by your pathetic wishful thinkings!
This is a short response. Wait for the detailed one later, you product of morbid incest!
I wish you could see, experience and taste a bit of what I have been through and then you will keep cursing yourself forever. Remember one thing, it's not scientific jargon or filthy slurs that does the trick. It is pure morale boosting. With cold logic and reason you can't motivate a nation or a soldier to face bullet but with delirious words you can. That's why you need poets, philosophers, demogogues and others like them more than scientists at the time of crisis. And if this is not such a time than I wonder when it will be. Your attitude and the attitude of scientists on tv shows was despicable. The language you continue to use does not reflect your scientific character but the character of a vagabond slut. Don't put your parents to shame. I am sure they are honourable people.
Mirror is a pathetic, sore loser. When he loses an intellectual argument, he resorts to fascist methods like censorship. Her is the comment again, arse hole, delete and I will keep posting again!
The mind of a bigot is like the pupil in the eye; the more light you shine on it, the more it contracts.
You are a vermin, fascist bigot. I have registered you in my challenge as well and will have to ask Professor Hoodbhoy and Dr. Atta-ur-Rehman to fit an even bigger water kit in your filthy arse to prove my point, you placebo producing imbecile. You keep regurgitating the vomit coming out of your buddy Scientist’s mouth (or are you the same person, you cunt!). See you with your Pseudo Scientist buddy here on January 1, 2013. A bientot!
Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the bastardest of them all.
It’s you, @Scientist!!!!!!!
Q. Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the basta.rdest of them all.
A. Since I am a mirror let me show you who? None other than @wakeup or @idiotcrusher.
Q. who is: a jangli, inbred, whose mother is also his aunt?
A. The Mirror only speaks truth. He is None other than @wake or @ idiotcrusher.
The mirror can show even more truth. @wake or @ idiotcrusher has a keep who happens to be his mother too.
89 days and counting! What colour water kit would you like to be fitted up your mirrored arse?
Beware @wakeup@idiotcrusher has some role in this bulletin board. He projects being censored by the site managers but manages to get his filth out here while at the same time blocking others. What a filthy sob.
Jackass, the only reason my comments got posted was because I beat you at your game. You work for ZEM, not me! I am just a user–how the hell could I delete anything, dickhead?
I simply kept reposting after you deleted them until you got innundated and one of the posts made it through. Stop drinking bhung, you slimeball, lying fascist!
@idiotcrusher, Tell me frankly who is your father ? I am not asking about his name, which I am sure you don't know. I am just asking about his genealogy i.e. which species?
Ask your mother, she will know. He used to plug all her holes!
You mean someone else may be an animal used to fill your mother's holes and thus you were born. And now you do the same for her.
Your English comprehension is pathetic, you jangli! Ask your mother for a blow job, it may help.
I have decided orange water kit will look good in your baboon arse. 82 days and counting!
Hmmm, so your mother gives you blow job as well. Interesting revelation!!!
I am also beginning to wonder if you arse hole participated in the Zia Ul Haq research project to calculate the angle of Allah? He wanted to make sure that we point our hands when praying in the right direction to the Cosmos so that the maximum amount of our prayer energy could be directed at Allah. What was the angle,calculated? 35 degrees, you medieval charlatan? You should read the book or see the film " In the Name of the Rose" by Umberto Eco–completely captures Satan worshippers like you!
I have not heard of such a project. If I did I will surely make an effort to be part of it. Prayers do wonders which science can't even imagine. But the evil men like you will never understand or be blessed with such an experience.
And you better be careful with your emails. You live in the US and all your emails are being read by the FBI. If they find out that you are closet fundamentalist/ Taliban sympathiser, you will,lose your 7-11 job and deported back to lovely Khairpur to sell wat kits on a donkey!
Moron, I pray everyday. I just don’t believe in the bullshit called calculating the angle of prayer. That only falls in the realm of imbeciles like you with thick beards growing out of your arse. Theses are the type if projects whose mothers are also their aunts, you inbred freak!
I have started believing that you are simply incorrigible. The angle of prayer was set by the one who taught us prayers. It's in straight line from you to Ka'ba. Incidentally you would not like to hear that the same person had a thick beard and once responded to a clean shaved man that his Lord has ordered him to grow beard. You need to polish your religious knowledge. Don't let it rot similar to your scientific believe.
He was a great man, Kali Kumli Walla (SAW), far from a self righteous pathetic slug like you. He warned us of evil dressed up in noble garb like you, you Shaitan Kai Chailley! You are a true representation of the Jahiliya hate mongers!
Positive for this one for use of pretty descent language. Besides, don't forget everyone is self righteous including yourself. If you don't believe it then simply look at how many people tried to tell you to go soft on use of your vocabulary. But you don't listen to anyone. What's this attitude? Self righteous, stubborn, ignorant. Tell me if you ever made any friend other than evil ones.
This is called being repulsed at your self righteous, mumbo jumbo, which means nothing whatsoever, scietifically. Every time I present something based on logic, you take off on your " O' we re Muslim and we can do miracles" crap. We can't. This is the same bullshit mentality that lost us half the country as each Muslim soldier was supposed to be worth 10 Hindu soldiers until we found out otherwise and got our arse whipped in the process!
You know you are NOT a scientist so why keep up the pretences? If you come down to earth, we can have a meaningful dialogue about the fake water kit, which is where it started. Otherwise, I will keep reminding you who you are: a jangli, inbred, whose mother is also his aunt!
And you imbecile prick still has not disclosed what science discipline to are in? I am pretty sure you spend your days with one hand in your shalwar caressing your alas and the other on the GORA invented keyboard propagating your bigotry! Come clean: are you really a scientist or a BULLSHITTER?
Unless you come persistently clean on your vocabulary you won't get any information you desire so much.
Because you are simply a charlatan, not a scientist, you cunt!
A negative again.
FBI is hot on your tail. All the money you have earned doing crap jobs for GORAS is at stake. If you want to sell water kits in Khairpur, continue to show the agencies your true colours. Pathetic bigot. Lives on the scraps thrown by the GORAS and still berates them. Jis thali mein khana, usee mein chaid karna. Proves the low life you are! By the way, what is the minimum wage in the US now?
Mirror is a pathetic, sore loser. When he loses an intellectual argument, he resorts to fascist methods like censorship. Her is the comment again, arse hole, delete and I will keep posting again!
The mind of a bigot is like the pupil in the eye; the more light you shine on it, the more it contracts.
You are a vermin, fascist bigot. I have registered you in my challenge as well and will have to ask Professor Hoodbhoy and Dr. Atta-ur-Rehman to fit an even bigger water kit in your filthy arse to prove my point, you placebo producing imbecile. You keep regurgitating the vomit coming out of your buddy Scientist’s mouth (or are you the same person, you cunt!). See you with your Pseudo Scientist buddy here on January 1, 2013. A bientot!
Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the bastardest of them all.
It’s you, @Scientist!!!!!
We can see many many Hoodboys and Ata Rehmans in past history too, who ridiculed great Inventors. Read Proof below: A MUST READING FOR ALL PEOPLE:
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Suppression of new ideas & innovation:
It is not happening just with Agha, but in past also were many Hoodbhoys and Ata-Rehmans who opposed great inventions with full force. Please forward this message to ur colleagues if u liked it. Spread this massage throughout Pakistan in order to expose Hoodbhoys, Ata Rehmans and their pets. Thanks.
Human history is riddled with examples of innovations and research that had been suppressed and derogated by the leading science community and the accepted scientific conventions of the time. Throughout human history, many innovators became the victims of the insults of the skeptical scientific, governmental and corporate power elites.
German Professor George Ohm’s famous Ohm's Law in initial publication was met with ridicule and dismissal and it was called "a tissue of naked fantasy." In fact he was so much teased by Hoodbhoys and Ata-Rehmans of those days, that he resigned from professorship. Ten years later, scientists recognized its great importance. [Note: It is taught in Universities & is base of Electricity]
NOW LISTEN ABOUT INVENTION OF AIRPLANE: During 1903 to 1908, Wrights Brother’s claims about their airplane invention were not believed. Most American scientists discredited the Wrights and proclaimed that their mechanism was a hoax. [Note: As is being said now by many Hoodbhoys & many Ata Rehmans about Agha Waqar].
Another idiot Jahil Professor said "Airplanes are interesting toys, but of no military value." – Said by Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre. [Note: All military powers has War planes i.e our Thunder]
Nobel Laureate Hans Krebs’ discovery of the metabolic cycle that would eventually bear his name was rejected from the journal Nature.
When Nobel Laureate Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar presented his ideas at the Royal Astronomical Society in January 1935, most famous astronomer at that time, Arthur Eddington, ridiculed his ideas. It took decades before the Chandrasekhar Limit was accepted by all astrophysicists and eventually his idea became the foundation for the theory of black holes. Forty years later, Chandrasekhar was awarded the 1983 Nobel Prize in physics.
Galileo’s ideas about the universe were first dismissed as being impossible. The priests and aristocrats feared the worldview that his ideas were beginning to force upon people. Galileo was placed under house arrest.
Nobel prize-winning biochemist Albert Szent-Gyorgyi never got funded for his work on the relevance of quantum physics to living organisms.
When Nobel laureate Hans Alfven came up with the idea of parallel electric fields he was ridiculed for his work. [Note: It is taught in Universities]
When Nobel laureate Svante Arrhenius proposed his idea that electrolytes are full of charged atoms, it was considered a crazy notion. [Note: It is taught in Universities]
“Mr. Bell, after careful consideration of your invention, while it is a very interesting novelty, we have come to the conclusion that it has no commercial possibilities." — J. P. Morgan's comments on behalf of the officials and engineers of Western Union after a demonstration of the newly invented telephone.
"This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us." –Western Union internal memo, 1876. [Note: Now every house/person has telephone]
Luigi Galvani's experiments were ridiculed because they countered established views. He was called the "frogs' dance instructor." His innovative experiments eventually became the basis for the biological study of neurophysiology. [Note: It is taught in Universities]
When Scanning-tunneling microscope was invented in 1982, it was met by hostility and ridicule from the specialists in the microscopy field. In 1986, the inventors won the Nobel Prize.
Stanford Ovshinsky's invention of glasslike semiconductors was attacked by physicists and ignored for more than a decade [10 years]. Finally he got funding from the Japanese for his work. Consequently, the new science of amorphous semiconductor physics was born. [Note: It is taught in Universities]
When Sherwood Rowland, Mario Molina and Paul Crutzen first warned that chemicals called cholorofluorocarbons or CFCs, were destroying the ozone layer they were ridiculed for their work. In 1995, Rowland, Molina and Crutzen, won a Nobel Prize for this discovery.
When Warren and his team introduced a new facet to MRI theory, his colleagues at Princeton University told him that his insane ideas were endangering his career. They held a mean-spirited bogus presentation mocking his work. After seven years, Warren was vindicated. His discoveries are leading to the development of new MRI techniques. [Note: Now many benefit from this great invention]
The inventors of the turbine ship engine, the electric ships telegraph, and the steel ship hull were initially met with disbelief and derision for their work.
When Thomas Edison became successful with a light bulb filament he invited members of the scientific community to observe his demonstration. Although many from the general public went to witness the lamp, the noted scientists refused to attend. Sir William Siemens, England's most distinguished engineer said "Such startling announcements as these should be deprecated as being unworthy of science and mischievous to its true progress." Professor Du Moncel said "The Sorcerer of Menlo Park appears not to be acquainted with the subtleties of the electrical sciences. Mr. Edison takes us backwards."
"Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction." – Said by Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology, 1872.
Before you read the comments below, note that I have added the name of both Scientist and Mirror to the list of people who have accepted my challenge–please scroll down to see below what the challenge is:
Pseudo Scientist and Impure Mirror the string of exchange I had with you earlier was not without purpose. Within the span of a few emails, it established the following facts:
1. You are a pseudo scientists, who when challenged on their racist rants in a civilised way, sheds their facade of civility and turn into the fascist, bigots that you really are, censoring my postings because you are employed by the Jewish Zem TV!
2. It proved that you belong to the army of imbecile retards who never miss a chance to bend reality based on twisted logics. You walk, eat, sleep and dream GORA inventions like phone, electricity, computer, fridge, car, TV, watch, internet, email, medicines and a million others but always use racist slurs to describe the GORA achievements. Shows your inferiority complex and victim mentality.
3. Always prefer to be screwed over by the Muslim Ummah for a few dirhams. Despite the most despicable treatment meted out to them by their supposedly Arab brothers, you and your ilk never say a word against them. Live in frigging Saudi as a labourer for a few years and you will know what slavery in modern world means, you Ummah arse licker
4. Always confuse the great Muslim inventions of the past with the pathetic state of affairs in the present. Since 1300 AD, with a few exceptions, we have not even invented a screw, mostly because of lost souls like you who have forgotten the great traditions of Al Bayruni, Al Khawarizmi, etc. These masters took the numeral system from India ( that is why it is called “Hindsa” in Arabic, dimwit) , Greek philosophy, Roman administration and combined and refined it with new thought to create one of the most advanced societies on this planet, not by calling it all GORA inventions, you moron!
5. I also established that you are such a baighairats that you will carp about the GORA science and then continue to use the GORA Internet to waste my time with your pathetic rants.
So, within a few emails, you were forced to shed your ” oh, I am so please to see this healthy debate….” facade and become the bigot, racist, retard, cave-dwelling retard you are. I am determined to crush any bigot who ever comes across my way with reason and facts because for me, it is another form of Jihad on Satan-worshippers like you who spread fitna amongst the impressionable youth in our unfortunate country. My message to all my Pakistani brethren out there is this: learn as much as you can from the West. That is where knowledge resides today. The balance is changing now and other countries are catching up (especially China and India) but it will take a lifetime before this process is complete. Ignore the hateful rantings of morons like thiese pseudo Sientists–they are just pathetic, angry losers who will take you down with him!
Look at the audacity of this evil who now openly claims that he will crush any voice of reason and fact and calls this attitude a Jihad. Just have look at line 2&3 in last paragraph of his above post.
You produce Fitna, I respond with Jihad! Allah u Akbar!
I rated you positive on this post for use of clean vocabulary. Shun out the evil in you completely and you will have positive results and achievements.
You evil, I shun you!
And agin, remember my challenge: if by 1st January 2013, when your fake poster child for Muslim inventions will have released his magic water kit, you have not spent Rs. 60,000 to buy and instal one uselessnpiece of junk and started harnessing "free" energy, I will request in this forum that both Dr. Hoodbhoy and Dr. Atta-ur-Rahman personally supervise the fitting of the biggest model of the water kit up your jangli arse to be telecast LIVE on all TV channels in Pakistan!
See you here on Januray 1, 2013. And don’t run away to your motherland, Somalia, where you barbarians actually came from!
On this one I rate you negative again. Also understand repeating your argument does not make it stronger rather it makes you look stupid.
Really? One of the foundations of science is repeatability. Only shamans like you will be adverse to that.
By the way, i think you will look lovely with electrical wires attached to water kit hanging out of your atse. This will be the greatest moment for Islamic achievements in science. Can I have the copyright to the poster?
See you on New Year's Day. Champagne will be on me.
It's amusing to see a simple censorship altering your behaviour and forcing you to mis-spell words which then become meaningless. I wish you could respond positively to pursuation rather than force to change your behaviour. But for some DANDA PEER E VIGRIAY TIGRIAY NOO.
The fascist in you is coming out again using DANDA language! That is the difference between a truly educated, scientific GORA and and arse hole KALA like you. When you don't get your way with words, you dimwit fascists resort to violence. I really hope the FBI is watching your emails and that you get booted out if the US to go back to your cave in Somalia. Ther is good business ther in piracy and all the pirates, after they kill their innocent victims (mostly GORAS), offer their prayers facing the dead bodies! You will fit right in. Aye aye Captain!
Go get some sleep damned, your thoughts are no more coherent.
Put the dead bolts on. The FBI will break the door anytime!
Appeal to all members of Pakistani Parliament and Ministers:
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Dear Sir,
World’s scientists has been trying to replace fuel by Water-hydrogen from 100 yrs but are failed.
But Agha waqar has invented this the greatest invention of history but he is being discouraged by Jahil Ph.D’s . Now fuel-mafia is using Sindh police to harass this big hero of nation. Please provide him full secure accommodation with security personals before he is murdered by Fuel-mafia.
Thanks
Abdul Hamid
TRUTH IS THIS:
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The crux of matter is that idiotic jealous brains of Hoodbhoy and Ata Rehman and many other Jahil Ph.D’s and fools are stuck on conventional electrolysis; which of course cannot run a car on 100% Water. So these fools are always showing u their calculations of Electrolysis in their comments and articles, which are totally irrelevant to this new invention. As a result, these bloody fools are shouting like mads and declaring Agha a fraud w/o any physical proof of fraud.
True story is, that Agha is not using conventional electrolysis [that takes too much current] in this new invention. Agha is using a new technique that uses very very little current like car radio but produces hydrogen many many time more than electrolysis. Technique works in 2 steps. To give shock that strongly weakens H2O bonds. Then a tiny current is needed [like Car Radio] that continues to separate H from water EASILY. Practical demonstration has already been done in front of many many Ph.D scientist, journalists, ministers and Parliamentarians. Full mechanics of new technique will be revealed only after commercialization of New Method, Then whole world will add this new invention in their existing books of science and Technology.
Bcsz this new technique does not exist in existing Books that are read in Engineering universities and in Ph.D classes; this is why Jealous-Jahils Hoodbhoy, Ata Rehman and their brainless barking pets have no ability to understand the mechanics of this invention. With in 3 months when this KIT will be commercialized and many cars will start to run on roads, this new technique will be fully disclosed.
No doubt Agha is not well versed in Theory and he has invented this GREATEST INVENTION OF MANKIND HISTORY by hit-and-trial method; u can say it accidentally. But Many inventions in past were also invented not by Ph.D’s or Engineers but by simple technicians like Thomas Edison who is so far the biggest inventor with 119 inventions.
We assure u Agha’s invention is 1000% truth, as we know exactly what his invention is.
Note that Hoodbohy Ata-Rehman and their pets are brainless Jealous foooools.
This invention in fact can replace trillions of tons world’s fuel by water – A big threat to fuel-mafia. This Kit can run automobiles generators powerhouses factories missiles ships submarines Army tanks and all what is being run by fuel now.
Fuel-Mafia is now using police to harass Agha to stop his invention. Case made against him totally fake and manufactured. For the sake of Argument, even if we assume, he did robbery, how can u relate it with his GREATEST invention?
If a notorious Dakoo can be a President of a Country then what is wrong with Agha?
A gora scientist formulated the laws of thermodynamics. Others following his footsteps postulated that a perpetual motion machine is not possible under these laws. So how can you make a perpetual motion machine? Some dumb heads among us blindly follow the gora trail. They neither think themselves nor allow others to think differently. And when they find someone thinking differently, they do not hesitate to use foul language and depict themselves as vultures or worst creatures devoid of morality, decency and accepted norms of social behaviour.
Is a perpetual motion machine possible? To answer this question we have to ask ourselves if the nature has such machines? And the answer is a BIG YES. if you look around you find them everywhere. Every living being is a perpetual motion machine, which consumes far less energy to feed itself than the energy it utilises for doing other work. What about non-living things of nature? Again the answer is a BIG YES. Look at the sun. It is continuously producing enormous energy without an input source. What about a man made machine. Is there one which works perpetually? The answer is again a BIG YES. Look at the solar cell. What it does? It continuously converts light into electricity. It can do that continuously for years. What's the problem then in exploring ways by which a machine could provide large amount of energy for work including powering itself. This is exactly what the hydroelectric or other power plants do.
So my fellow country men do not be bogged down by the criticism of the black sheeps among us who are not only blind followers but also devoid of any honour, dignity and high moral character. Let these gora slaves not succeed in their evil designs of keeping you under their influence and slavery. Keep exploring and you will have successes. It could even be a car running on hydrogen produced by an efficient electrolysis system.
When you are faced with ignorant people, do not engage in discussion with them. Just say PEACE. –The Glorious Quran.
Long Live Pakistan and Pakistanis
You pathetic turd, all the examples you have given are wrong. Of course if you fix Mangla Dam on top of your Suzuki Mehran, it will supply enought energy to drive the junk forever but is that possible? The Sun is hot because of the Big Bang and is slowly losing its heat– it will not live forever, you rat arse. And your "perpetual motion machine" humans, what of those? Have you ever seen malnutritioned kids in sub Saharan Africa? See how little they eat and how much work they do because according to you twat, they should be able to produce more energy with nothing. The fact is the poor souls can barely breath and die a premature, terribel death. And the best solar cell is only 40% efficient, if that, you constipated brain. It is far from perpetual motion.
I will reserve my other comments for later but I want you to disclose now what field of science, other than Bullshitology, do you follow, you pathetic attention seeker? Is this just a drama to show off your supposed piety and live for Pakistan? By dragging the young down the path of ignorance, you donkey? Is this science? If your name was @PHILOSOPHER and you lived in an opium den, I would have probably let you go but if you want to call yourself a scientist, you will be held to a higher standard, you Shitan kai chailley! There is not an iota of facts, research, analysis in anything you have said. The only thing you are good at producing is stinking placebo, good for nothing. All the generic rantings, cliches, hurt sentiments, lost glory, inferiority complex, bigotry and hatred comes pouring out as soon as you open your mouth. What a pathetic character!
Remember my challenge: if by January 2013, when your fake poster child for Muslim inventions will have released his magic water kit, you are not installed one and started harnessing free energy, I will request in this forum that both Dr. Hoodbhoy and Dr. Atta-ur-Rahman personally supervise the fitting of the biggest model of the water kit up your jangli arse! See you here on Januray 1, 2013. And don't run away to your motherland, Somalia, where you barbarians actually came from!
You pathetic, filthy, disgusting insect produced in Craig Ventor's lab and surviving on their feces stop this bulshit. Here is a true mirror showing you your real character. You parents-less bastard picked out of a garbage can shove yourself back in the filthy tunnel from where you popped out. You know no science. You only know crap. Live upto your claim and go back to your mentors for learning more of their science. Don't spew your shit aroud here. If you want to be here first post your blood report to let us know which other filthy characteristics you crawling insect possess. Had you been a knowledgeable person it would reflect in your speech and writings. Your current style is no better than a Dung Beetle. You should use this alias for writing here or else I will keep showing you the mirror.
Giving a paintbrush to a chimpanzee and hoping that he will produce another Mona Lisa is stupid, wishful thinking, although the chance of that happening is still better than your idol “Engineer Agha Waqar” breaking anyting other than wind
mujhay jo baat samajh nahee arahee hai kay yeh fraud kaisay hai. agar kit may carbide bhi ho tau fraud kaisa. jis ko khareedna hai khareeday nahee tau jaa kar 100 ruppees liter petrol daalao. agar yeh fraud hai tau yeh jaiga kahaan rahay gaa tau pakistan may hee yeh konsa zardari hai jo dubai jaa kar baith jayay gaa fraud karka yaa nawaz shareef kee tarah saudi arab yaa musharaf kee tarah London jaa kar baith jayay gaa. Khairpur kaa banda hai bhag kar khairpur hee jayay gaa. Yeh fraud hai tau itnay baray scientist kuin apnay time kharab kar rahay hain. iss ko iss kay haal par chordain
The issue is bigger than Agha Waqar succeeding. The issue is questioning. Our educated lot does not want you to question principles engrained into their mind. They can’t see beyond their noses. In our society questioning is deplored and looked down upon. From home to school to your office environment whenever you raise a question your parents, relatives, friends, teachers and class fellows will discourage you for disparate reasons. The Creator has given you inbuilt ability to question everything and if you don’t find the answer then search for the answer and you will find the answer. This is what is called quest for knowledge. There is a wonderful saying in this regard: ” Ask question no matter how stupid you look because if you don’t ask question you will stay stupid”.
There is no denying that water can be used for extracting hydrogen to power engines. The primary reason scientists especially NASA scientists look for water on other planets is to get fuel for their return journey. If abundant water is found on any planet it could easily be colonized by earthly man. So whoever tells you it’s not possible under the laws of physics to economically extract hydrogen actually wants to impede your quest for knowledge and power. They are agents of Satan. They are enemies of independent thinking. And if someone claiming to be all knowing believes that knowledge in one particular field has reached its zenith and no further explorayion is required then Quran has a very good quote for them: “their example is like a donkey carrying burden of books”. Don’t listen to them.
Keep trying, ordinary people around the world are doing the same – trying to find cheap means
of hydrogen production from water. If someone comes forward with a claim of having done that listen to him patiently, examine his claim and establish the truth. This a way of superior culture. On the contrary inferior
people resort to name calling, abusive and demeaning behaviour. They are the real culprit. Enemies of knowledge, out of box thinking, research and enemies of the poor people of Pakistan. When you come across them ignore them for it is the best revenge like democracy.
You worm, you have crawled out of your hole despite being shown the true face of you "Engineer" hero. If you missed it, here is the link to the criminal background of the amzing 21st century Islamic, thermodynamics rules breaking "Engineer"
http://e.jang.com.pk/09-04-2012/lahore/pic.asp?pi…
You dumb arse wishful thinking Neanderthal, you tried to pre-empt the flak you were going to get from the public as soon as this news broke by revising your love letter for Agha's breath-taking achievements into a more generic "O' this issue is bigger than Agha" crap. You have fooled no one. Just look at the lovely photo of your fraud poster child for Islamic scientific endeavour in the post above? A pictures speaks louder than a thousand words. Recognise the water kit around his neck, you dumb donkey with burden of water kits and self important righteousness on your back? These are the criminals you promote as breaking the boundaries of science, you pathetic slug?
I want you to apologise to all the Pakistani scientists you berated and offer Tauba that you will not indulge in spreading any more fitna and change your screen name from Scientist to Shithead because that suits your mental abilities. I am now going to go and read some more GORA science to learn something real. And you can go and shove all GORA invented inventions that you use up your racist, stupid arse, you chimp!
You dumb arse, I never said that we should not pursue science or find new discoveries–far from it. I actually said that we should vigorously follow the GORAS and learn as much as we can. You are a person suffering from inferiority complex who ties all social ills and your own failures in life with science. Tell me what science discipline do you follow, you quack? Were you refused a research grant or a visa to the US?
The fact that England (GORA) colonized us or US (GORA) is twisting our arm to do its bidding has NOTHING to do with science. As a matter of fact, some of the biggest universities in the sub-continent were developed by the English and Sir Syed Ahmed Khan (you know who he was, dimwit?) even started Aligarh Muslim University to make sure Muslims follow the GORA traditions and do not fall behind Hindus in science! All you are doing is ranting against the GORAs. You Neaderthal, you owe it to the GORA scientis that today you are sitting in your room, caressing you balls with one hand and typing away on the GORA-invented computer with the other to spew your busllshit.
I only said that we should not minize the GORA achievements, that the water kit is useless, and this guy is a fraud. You are a shameless person who, despite the facts coming out, continues to support your bulllshit thesis. I think you are still getiing too much acetylene gas in your arse after you threw carbide in stinking hole to work as a catalyst to help the hydrolysis process in your brain. I hope and pray that another Pakistani like Dr. Abdul Salaam discovers some other great theory or invent something radical to bring us good name and help the country develop. But even Dr. Salaam had to go through a rigorous GORA higher scientific eduaction at Oxford and share the Nobel prize with two GORAS, Sheldon Glashow (Christian) and Steven Weinberg (Jewish). He did not come from Khairpur Institute of Technology, you self important, wishful thinking, failed scientist. Giving a paintbrush to a chimpanzee and hoping that he will produce another Mona Lisa is stupid, wishful thinking, although the chance of that happening is still better than your idol "Engineer Agha Waqar" breaking anyting other than wind!
Unfortunately for our country, it is arsehloes like you who call themselves Scientist but are only good at generating complete bullshit, which has no relevance to any science or the topic under discussion. And when confronted, simply move on to a higher level of bullshit on a different tangent. You are part of the army of imbeciles who will believe and support vociferously, without any scientifice basis, any crap claimed by anyone as long as he/she is Muslim (unless, of course, they are Muslims who have actually accomplished something like Professor Hoodbhoy or Atta-ur-Rahman–pure jealousy and malice). I am sure if Agha Waqar had claimed to convert camel shit into gold, you would have said "wow, what a great achievement to break GORA hegemony on science–truly breaking the barriers of science." And you reserve your contempt for all GORAS whose inventions you can't live without any second of the day. Imagine a world without electricity, cars, computers, phones, satellites, airplanes, medicines (the word "medicine" itself comes from the Medici family in Italy) and so on and so forth….or perhaps that is the world you fancy, you Taliban sympathizer, leading all the youth down the path of hatred and self destruction so that you can have your desert kingdom with 20 wives and 30 slaves again! This is the kind of ignorance our prophet (SAW) spoke against and this is exactly what you are promoting under the guise of religion, Shaitan Kay Chailley!
You are a pathetic, petty, criminal supporting, bigot, hypocrite, retarded, cave dwelling, pygmy Neaderthal. I hope you and your criminal poster child both get arrested soon and get sent to Somalia, where your jangli ancestors came from.
Now, why don't you go back to your cave, jerk off and analyse the sperm to see if the bigotry in your character from the X chromosome contributed by your mother or the stupidity from the Y chromosome imparted by your father or vice versa. That is the only science you are probably good at, you donkey burdened with bags full of ignorance, racism and hatred!
"The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you shine on it, the more it contracts.
Oliver Wendell Holmes
A true GORA scholar and jurist
Sorry to tell you @wakeup that your responses on this forum depicts you as Dung Beetle surviving on feces. Where have you learnt to present yourself in such a degrading manner. A bitch does a better job than this.
With normal, decent people, I use normal decent language. With self important righteous idiots and their pathetic supporters, I have modified the approach slightly to shut them up. I taught myself how to do it. Does the provide the answer you douchebag?
Douchebag? No, no, you are not behaving like douchebag. You are actually a Dung Beetle.
Mirror is a pathetic fascist employed by ZEM to censor all rebuttals to his "O' I am so smart" statements in support of bigot, self righteous hypocrites. Here it is again, delete it and I will post another one, you cyclops!
I think you are right bitch, you can definitely do a better job!
What an insect. For you there is an unending supply of energy in feces. Keep rolling and eating it.
You are right, you jangli, bigot hypocrite, self righteous, Pygmy Neanderthal. You are the faeces that provides me the energy
Did you figure out if your mother was responsible for your bigotry or your father for your stupidity? Or was it the other way around, you pathetic slug!
O' I am the Scientist. I have one hand in my shalwar caressing my balls, the other on the GORA invented keyboard spewing racial hatred. I am such a great arse hole! Prostrate now in front of me, earthlings! I was sent from Satan to implant fitna but I am so crap at everything, I can't even get my dick out in time to pee and end up wetting myself. Baaaa aaaa aaaaa
What an admission from @wakeup that he is a Dung Beetle surviving on feces of the @Scientist. A disgusting insect most probably produced in Craig Ventor's lab.
You tapeworm, you crawled out of the donkey's arase again? That is the lab wher you were created, you mile high heap of stinking bullshit. Self righteous, pathetic, bigot, hypocrite, cave dwelling, Pygmy Neanderthal. You cunt, go and lick your criminal buddy Agha Waqar's arse. I am sure you worked as a Steno in the same office as he did, never showed up for work, robbed people and then grew a beard out of your arse to trumpet your claims of scientific genius and religious piety. Pricks like you fool no one, you donkey with burden of bigotry, hatred and pure evil! You have no shame– you continue to use GORA invented computer to spit your venom, you vermin!
You keep creeping out of your stinking dung hole and I will keep beating you back there – pathetic loser. I will ensure you get the taste of the poison you are spreading. If you ever use your science to find out your bloodline don't be surprised to see a filthy insectoid there.
Neanderthal fascist bigot. This is the type of intellect you get in an incestuous family. Do you know that your mother is also your aunt, you dickhead?
Before you read the comments below, note that I have added the name of both Scientist and PHPFAST to the list of people who have accepted my challenge–please scroll down to see below.
Pseudo scientist, the string of exchange I had with you earlier was not without purpose. Within the span of a few emails, it established the following facts:
1. You are a pseudo scientist, who when challenged on his racist rants in a civilised way, sheds his facade of civility and turns into the fascist, bigot that you really are
2. It proved that you belong to the army of imbecile retards who never miss a chance to bend reality based on twisted logics. You walk, eat, sleep and dream GORA inventions like phone, electricity, computer, fridge, car, TV, watch, internet, email, medicines and a million others but always use racist slurs to describe the GORA achievements. Shows your inferiority complex and victim mentality.
3. Always prefer to be screwed over by the Muslim Ummah for a few dirhams. Despite the most despicable treatment meted out to them by their supposedly Arab brothers, you and your ilk never say a word against them. Live in frigging Saudi as a labourer for a few years and you will know what slavery in modern world means, you Ummah arse licker
4. Always confuse the great Muslim inventions of the past with the pathetic state of affairs in the present. Since 1300 AD, with a few exceptions, we have not even invented a screw, mostly because of lost souls like you who have forgotten the great traditions of Al Bayruni, Al Khawarizmi, etc. These masters took the numeral system from India ( that is why it is called “Hindsa” in Arabic, dimwit) , Greek philosophy, Roman administration and combined and refined it with new thought to create one of the most advanced societies on this planet, not by calling it all GORA inventions, you moron!
5. I also established that you are such a baighairat that you will carp about the GORA science and then continue to use the GORA Internet to waste my time with your pathetic rants.
So, within a few emails, you were forced to shed your ” oh, I am so please to see this healthy debate….” facade and become the bigot, racist, retard, cave-dwelling retard you are. And now you end your email with PEACE? You take your peace and shove it up your jangli arse. I am determined to crush any bigot who ever comes across my way with reason and facts for me, it is another form of Jihad on Satan-worshipped like you who spread fitna amongst the impressionable youth in our unfortunate country. My message to all my Pakistani brethren out there is this: learn as much as you can from the West. That is where knowledge resides today. The balance is changing now and other countries are catching up (especially China and India) but it will take a lifetime before this process is complete. Ignore the hateful rantings of morons like this pseudo Sientist– he is just a pathetic, angry loser who will take you down with him!
Agha Wakar Dakati Ka Mulzim or Baghair Hazri k Police Department sa tankhaw lana k Mujrim.
http://e.jang.com.pk/09-04-2012/lahore/pic.asp?pi…
Brilliant work @uafmasood. A picture is worth a thousand words!
Hamid Mir has to invite him again to discuss his new "invention"
The issue is bigger than Agha Waqar succeeding. The issue is questioning. Our educated lot does not want you to question principles engrained into their mind. They can't see beyond their noses. In our society questioning is deplored and looked down upon. From home to school to your office environment whenever you raise a question your parents, relatives, friends, teachers and class fellows will discourage you for disparate reasons. The Creator has given you inbuilt ability to question everything and if you don't find the answer then search for the answer and you will find the answer. This is what is called quest for knowledge. There is a wonderful saying in this regard: " Ask question no matter how stupid you look because if you don't ask question you will stay stupid".
There is no denying that water can be used for extracting hydrogen to power engines. The primary reason scientists especially NASA scientists look for water on other planets is to get fuel for their return journey. If abundant water is found on any planet it could easily be colonized by earthly man. So whoever tells you it's not possible under the laws of physics to economically extract hydrogen actually wants to impede your quest for knowledge and power. They are agents of Satan. They are enemies of independent thinking. And if someone claiming to be all knowing believes that knowledge in one particular field has reached its zenith and no further explorayion is required then Quran has a very good quote for them: "their example is like a donkey carrying burden of books". Don't listen to them.
Keep trying, ordinary people around the world are doing the same – trying to find cheap means
of hydrogen production from water. If someone comes forward with a claim of having done that listen to him patiently, examine his claim and establish the truth. This a way of superior culture. On the contrary inferior
people resort to name calling, abusive and demeaning behaviour. They are the real culprit. Enemies of knowledge, out of box thinking, research and enemies of the poor people of Pakistan. When you come across them ignore them for it is the best revenge like democracy.
Moron, you are back again with your patronising rants. Of course people are seeking alternative sources of energy around the world, including what you describe in your racist slurs as GORAS. Can you tell me if you consider Chinese and Russians as GORA too, you delirious donkey with a burden of books on your back? The fact of the matter is while dickheads like you have one hand in their shalwar caressing their balls and the other on the GORA invented keyboard typing away inanities, all the GORAS and even your neighbouring iIndian KALAS are moving far ahead. Eisenstein, who was a real genius, had said that" Imagination is more powerful than knowledge" a hundred years ago. We don't need sermons from a failed scientist, who thinks carbide aids hydrolysis and when caught, just mumbles some bullshit like "O' I misspelled it", to know what the quest of knowledge means. Why don't you go back to your cave, you bigot, hypocrite, retarded, Pygmy, infidel, Neanderthal. The greatest trick of Shaitan is that it can appear in the guise of fake scholars like you, you inbred beast!
You dumb arse wishful Neanderthal, look at the lovely photo of your fraud poster child for Islamic scientific endeavour in the post above? Recognise the water kit around his neck, you dumb donkey with burden of water kits and self important righteousness on your back? These are the criminals you promote as breaking the boundaries of science, you pygetic slug? I want you to apologise to all the Pakistani scientists you berated and offer Tauba that you will not indulge in spreading any more fitna and change your screen name from Scientist to Shithead because that suits your mental abilities. I am now going to go and read some more GORA science to learn something real. And you can go and shove all GORA invented inventions that you use up your racist, stupid arse, you chomp!
Pseudo scientist, the string of exchange I had with you during the past few days was not without purpose. In addition to supporting a criminal "Engineer" involved in burglary and illegal arms possession as described in @uafmasood's post above, within the span of a few emails, it established the following facts:
1. You are a pseudo scientist, who when challenged on his racist rants in a civilised way, sheds his facade of civility and turns into the fascist, bigot that you really are
2. It proved that you belong to the army of imbecile retards who never miss a chance to bend reality based on twisted logics. You walk, eat, sleep and dream GORA inventions like phone, electricity, computer, fridge, car, TV, watch, internet, email, medicines and a million others but always use racist slurs to describe the GORA achievements. Shows your inferiority complex and victim mentality.
3. Always prefer to be screwed over by the Muslim Ummah for a few dirhams. Despite the most despicable treatment meted out to them by their supposedly Arab brothers, you and your ilk never say a word against them. Live in frigging Saudi as a labourer for a few years and you will know what slavery in modern world means, you Ummah arse licker
4. Always confuse the great Muslim inventions of the past with the pathetic state of affairs in the present. Since 1300 AD, with a few exceptions, we have not even invented a screw, mostly because of lost souls like you who have forgotten the great traditions of Al Bayruni, Al Khawarizmi, etc. These masters took the numeral system from India ( that is why it is called “Hindsa” in Arabic, dimwit) , Greek philosophy, Roman administration and combined and refined it with new thought to create one of the most advanced societies on this planet, not by calling it all GORA inventions, you moron! Look at how fantastically supporting a jahil, just because he is a Muslim not from Lahore, exploded in your face. You have again made us a laughing stock of the world, especially the GORAS are going to get a field day out of it, you dumb arse.
5. I also established that you are such a baighairat that you will carp about the GORA science and then continue to use the GORA Internet to waste my time with your pathetic rants.
So, within a few emails, you were forced to shed your ” oh, I am so please to see this healthy debate….” facade and become the bigot, racist, retard, cave-dwelling retard you are. And now you end your email with PEACE? You take your peace and shove it up your jangli arse. I am determined to crush any bigot who ever comes across my way with reason and facts for me, it is another form of Jihad on Satan-worshipped like you who spread fitna amongst the impressionable youth in our unfortunate country. My message to all my Pakistani brethren out there is this: learn as much as you can from the West. That is where knowledge resides today. The balance is changing now and other countries are catching up (especially China and India) but it will take a lifetime before this process is complete. Ignore the hateful rantings of morons like this pseudo Sientist– he is just a pathetic, angry loser who will take you down with him!
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : آپ بتائیں کہ کس سائینس کے اصول سے آپ نے واٹر کٹ بنائی ھے?
آغا مکار : وہ جی الیکٹرو لائی سس کے ظریقے سے
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : مگر اس سے تو سائینس کے اصول ٹوٹ جاتے ہیں
آغا مکار : آپ کیسے سائینس دان ہیں، کچھ سائینس وائینس پڑھی بھی ھے یا نہیں? ذرا ٹھہرو تمہارے خلاف کورٹ میں جعلی ڈگری کا کیس کتا ھوں، بابا اصول وصول نہیں ٹوٹتے، پانی کا مالی کیول ٹوٹتا ھے۔ تمہیں پتا بھی ھے کہ مالیکیول کیا ھوتا ھے?
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : حد ھو گئی بھئی، بھلا الیکٹرولائیسس سے کیسے ، اس کے لئے تو بہت زیادہ الیکٹرکسٹی چایہئے، اب ایک مالیکیول کو توڑنے کے لئے بتائیں کتنی دہ الیکٹرکسٹی چایہے?
آغا مکار : پہلے تم بتاؤ پانی کا مالیکیول کا فارمولا،
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : جی مجھے پتا ھے ، لیکن آپ یہ بتائیں ۔ ۔ ۔
جامد پیر : (بات کاٹ کر) دیکھیں ڈاکٹر ھدھد صاھب پہلے آپ آغا مکار کے سوال کا جواب دیں
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : حد ھو گئی بھئی، پانی کا فارمولا تو بچہ بھی جانتا ھے ۔ ۔ ۔
جامد پیر : (بات کاٹ کر) اچھا جناب آغا وقار صاحب آپ پانی کا فارمولا بتادیں، ڈاکٹر عطا پتا کو شائید معلوم نہیں
آغا مکار : جی اس کو ایچ ایچ او کہتے ہیں
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : (پس منظر میں چیخ رھے ہیں، آواز بند کر دی گئی ھے ۔ ۔ یعنی بولتی بند ھو گئی ۔ ۔ اب ہس منظر بھی بند)
آغا مکار : دیکھیں میں تو کہتا ھوں ان جعلی ڈاکٹروں کی ڈگری چیک کروائیں
جامد پیر : انشاءاللہ میڈیا ھر چیز کو منظر عام لا کر رھے گا، ڈاکٹر اتاپتا آپ یہ بتائیں کہ کیا پانی کی الیکٹرولائیسس سے ھائیڈروجن گیس بنتی ھے?
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : جی بالکل بنتی ھے، لیکن ۔ ۔ ۔
آغا مکار : دیکھا اب مان گئے نا، پہلے کہتے تھے کہ گاڑی نہیں چل سکتی، اب مان گئے
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : دہکھیں میں کہہ رھا ھوں کہ ۔ ۔ ۔
آغا مکار : پہلے پانی کا فارمولا بتاؤ
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : لاحول ولا ۔ ۔ ۔
جامد پیر : (بات کاٹ کر) دیکھیں ڈاکٹر ھدھد صاحب آپ زیادتی کر رھے ھیں، آغا مکار کوئی شیطان ہیں جو آپ لاحول پڑھ رھے ہیں?
آغا مکار : ارے ان کو نہیں معلوم پانی کا فارمولا، میں ایک اور سوال پوچھتا ھوں، آپ بتائیں کہ ہائیڈروجن کہتے کس کو ہیں
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : دیکھیں آپ میرے سوالات کا جواب دیں ۔ ۔
جامد پیر : ناظرین ڈاکٹر گل قند لائن پر موجود ھیں، ان سے پوچھتے ھیں کہ کیا پانی سے گاڑی چل سکتی ھے?
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : بھئی ان کی گاڑی کا پہلے چیک اپ ھونا چاہیئے
آغا مکار : میں تو پظالبی کرتا ھو ں پہلے ڈاکٹر ھدھد کا دماغی چیک اپ کریں
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : خبردار او فراڈیئے ۔ ۔
آغا مکار : تم فراڈئیے جعلی ڈاکٹر ۔ ۔
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : نان سینس، یہ شخص بالکل فراڈیا ھے ۔ ۔ ۔
آغا مکار : تیری کیوں پھٹ رہی ھے?
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : اوئے گانڈو
آغا مکار : تو خود گانڈو
جامد پیر : دیکھیں ڈاکٹر ھدھد صاحب آپ زیادتی کر رھے ھیں
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : اوئے تو چپ کر چوتیا، تو ھی اس کے ساتھ ملا ھوا ھے ۔
جامد پیر : ہاں ملا ھوا ھوں بھڑوے، کر لے جو کرنا ھے ھدھد
آغا مکار : یہ گانڈو جعلی ڈاکٹر ھے، اس سے پوچھو پانی کا فارمولا ۔ ۔
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : پانی کے فارمولے کی گانڈ میں ۔۔۔۔۔ بیپ ۔ ۔ بیپ ۔ ۔
آغا مکار : تیری گانڈ میں واٹر کٹ ، تیری ۔ ۔ بیپ بیپ
ڈاکٹر پی-ایچ-ڈی : تیری واٹر کٹ سے تیری بنڈ ۔ ۔ بیپ بیپ ۔ او فراڈیئے ۔ ۔
چند دنوں بعد ۔ ۔
یہ بی بی سی لندن ھے، پاکستان کے مشہور سائینسداں ڈاکٹر اتا بتا اور ڈاکٹر ھدھد کو ایمرجنسی میں لندن ہسپتال میں لایا گیا ھے، بتایا گیا ھے کہ کسی آغا مکار نامی شخص نے ان کی گانڈ مار کر ایک پلاسٹک کی واٹر کٹ اندر گھسیڑ دی ھے ۔۔ ۔
چند دنوں بعد ۔ ۔
یہ بی بی سی لندن ھے، سندھ کے ایک گاؤں پر شاھین میزائیلوں سے حملہ، حملہ آور کا نام ڈاکٹر نامبارک گل قند بتایا جاتا ھے، جن کے بارے میں معلوم ھوا ھے کہ کسی آغا مکار نامی شخص نے ان کو اغوا کرکے ان کی بنڈ مار دی تھی، لیکن وہ مزید زیادتی سے پہلے فرار ھونے میں کامیاب ھو گئے تھے ۔ ۔
To all the idiots blogging here for the stupid water kit:
I have a challenge for you. The “Engineer” has promised that he will release his “magic” water kit within 3-4 months. That means it should be out at a purchoon shop near you no later than January 2013. If by the end of that month, all you dimwits have not installed one in your car and started harnessing the "free energy", I will personally award you the title of “The Biggest Arseholes, Morons in The World.” Any takers out there? I am keeping a list.
Hope wakeup and other colleagues will take care of the language being used in the discussions, same is requested to hudhud et al
The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you shine on it, the more it contracts!
Is that nice enough language?
Dear fellows,
I had been engaging in long exchanges with @ wakeup to test my suspicion about him. I have reached at positive conclusions about the person. Let me summarise few points:
1. He read into my posts ideas which I never mentioned. For example, he calls me racist for mentioning that gora enslaved us. In this historical fact there is no doubt. But he concludes it's a racial comment and in doing so goes far too vulgar. Where else did you see this type of attitude. You guessed it right – yes on these tv shows where these gora agents have been using filthy and unethical comments about Agha Waqar.
2. He uses extremely bad language and verses of Quran in one post. It appears he has no regards for the holy book, which at the very first place forbids vulgarity.
3. He is an advocate of the ratta culture and does not want you to explore ideas with an independent mind. That is the primary reason why we have dearth of real scientists in our society. He wants perpetuation of our misery – again a gora agenda. So a gora agent.
4. Do not forget that knowledge is your inheritance, seek knowledge even if you have to go anywhere even to a gora country. He thinks I oppose this saying whereas I am a proponent of this saying.
5. His extremely objectionable vocabulary, emotional outbursts and vulgarity going far below the moral standards of our society is reflective of the miseries we are subjected to by these elitests. I would request the moderators of this forum to delete all his posts and the posts in Urdu which carry objectionable language. Delete my responses too. Let us concentrate on the new ideas and discussions within our ethical bounds.
There are many other points but the few lines above suffices to firmly argue that @Wakeup type people should be social outcasts. They do not deserve attention. I will not have any more exchanges with him. You decide for yourself.
I wish you all peace, prosperity, happiness and unflinching quest for knowledge and discoveries. PEACE.
Before you read the comments below, note that I have added the name of both Scientist and PHPFAST to the list of people who have accepted my challenge–please scroll down to see below.
Pseudo scientist, the string of exchange I had with you earlier was not without purpose. Within the span of a few emails, it established the following facts:
1. You are a pseudo scientist, who when challenged on his racist rants in a civilised way, sheds his facade of civility and turns into the fascist, bigot that you really are
2. It proved that you belong to the army of imbecile retards who never miss a chance to bend reality based on twisted logics. You walk, eat, sleep and dream GORA inventions like phone, electricity, computer, fridge, car, TV, watch, internet, email, medicines and a million others but always use racist slurs to describe the GORA achievements. Shows your inferiority complex and victim mentality.
3. Always prefer to be screwed over by the Muslim Ummah for a few dirhams. Despite the most despicable treatment meted out to them by their supposedly Arab brothers, you and your ilk never say a word against them. Live in frigging Saudi as a labourer for a few years and you will know what slavery in modern world means, you Ummah arse licker
4. Always confuse the great Muslim inventions of the past with the pathetic state of affairs in the present. Since 1300 AD, with a few exceptions, we have not even invented a screw, mostly because of lost souls like you who have forgotten the great traditions of Al Bayruni, Al Khawarizmi, etc. These masters took the numeral system from India ( that is why it is called “Hindsa” in Arabic, dimwit) , Greek philosophy, Roman administration and combined and refined it with new thought to create one of the most advanced societies on this planet, not by calling it all GORA inventions, you moron!
5. I also established that you are such a baighairat that you will carp about the GORA science and then continue to use the GORA Internet to waste my time with your pathetic rants.
So, within a few emails, you were forced to shed your ” oh, I am so please to see this healthy debate….” facade and become the bigot, racist, retard, cave-dwelling retard you are. And now you end your email with PEACE? You take your peace and shove it up your jangli arse. I am determined to crush any bigot who ever comes across my way with reason and facts for me, it is another form of Jihad on Satan-worshipped like you who spread fitna amongst the impressionable youth in our unfortunate country. My message to all my Pakistani brethren out there is this: learn as much as you can from the West. That is where knowledge resides today. The balance is changing now and other countries are catching up (especially China and India) but it will take a lifetime before this process is complete. Ignore the hateful rantings of morons like this pseudo Sientist– he is just a pathetic, angry loser who will take you down with him!
Wow,
Now i find , Why our nation is so backward….u guys are just wasting time ,let see what happen at the end….
@awakeup…i just see ..the thread is full with ur comments…..u don't have any work??…in these 2 days..i finished a lot of my work…and u are still there wasting ur time…for nothing…
BTW..what is ur profession…what is ur source of income…or ur father is a politician or university teacher who get money for doing nothing and give it to u to waste and spend ur time on internet with chatting or discussion on such forums…
It is called productivity. I can type a long email in five minutes, full of facts and punch– this is what good education imparts. So total time spent is less than an hour, which left me plenty of time to enjoy a nice weekend. And don't worry about my income, I have made enough through GORA education and hard work to live a very happy comfortable life. Alhamdulillah. Now let me ask you: can you walk and chew gum at the same time?
The reason we are backwards not because I counter bullshit with reason butbit is because people like you and Scientist are only trained mouth inanities. When challenged intellectually, you get confrontational and start using bad language. If the opponent is undetered, the fascist hidden inside jumps out, threatening life and limb.
The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you shine on it, the more it contracts!
Baighairat, you continue to use GORA invention like the Internet to spew your hatred. If your eyes work, you will be able to read that I never denied the GORA colonization–I stated that the powerful always control the weak, regardless of their skin colour, you pathetic, inbred, self important, jangli. Read my posts again and you will see I mentioned how your Ummah brothers in the Middle East piss on your face and laugh. I think too much acetylene gas has gone from your arse to your eyes, ears and head. I never claimed to be a scientist, you did so the burden of proof is on you, not me. And you come up with the completely factually incorrect statement that carbide helps electrolysis!!! If you read my first response to your original email, you will realize that I only used civilised language to critique your completely unscientific reference to GORA everything. But there is a phrase in Punjabi: jiho jiya mun, oho jai chapair. And you pathetic wanna be Sherlock Holmes, I am not from Lahore, never was. It is your racist inclinations that are buried deep in you heart that you continue to deny, that keep coming out and lead you this conclusions you pull out of your tired old arse. And finally, if who you so disrespectfully call people like me slaves of the GORA studied western science, which frigging science did you read? The one from the Yemen Republic of Al Qaeda? I am not a science teacher so don’t pity anyone. But I shake in fear on what mumbo jumbo you are pumping into the hearts and minds of the innocent who look up to you to teach them something. You are the pied piper who, being a loser in his profession, will take his failures out on his pupils by turning their creativity into a dung pile of inferiority complex and racial hatred, a mindset which is mostly responsible for the Somalification of Pakistan. Why don’t you tell us what area of science you belong to, you Nobel laureate? Welding is acetylene is called welder, not scientists, you inbred, Pygmy Neanderthal. Only within two days of your first holier-than-thou email, your true fascist colours have started to come out. You have started asking to ostracise me publicly and have start dropping hints that I am insulting the religion. Your next move will be to ask for a death sentence for me, you pathetic savage. Barbarians like you who, aft failing to get a grant, or a visa to study abroad, or a transfer to the city of your choice, or a promotion turn into holy warriors of science. You dimwit, you can’t even invent a tooth pick. And finally, when I use English, gou complain that I am using GORA slang but you use the same language as if your mother brought it innher jahaiz from Somalia. The actual problem is that, just like your intellectual mojo, your vocabulary and command of the GORA language is quite poor due to your pea sized brain. You have proved that you are dickhead and a failed scientist, spiritual leader, gem dealer, and sleuth. Bigot, hypocrite, jangli, self important, retarded, shallow, intellectually bankrupt, pygmy, cave dwelling, lice eating Neanderthal!
Dear “wakeup” the problem with you is that you are dealing a scientific matter in an emotional and non-academic style with using very low grade vocabulary!
Everybody has a right to differ with any point but this difference in ‘the point of view’ should be discussed in an academic style.
one point of view is that:
Just because Agha Waqar is a poor man he is not educated in expensive ‘so called’ institutes, he is unfortunately not able to explain his ideas in good English or good Urdu, he may also not be able to use a lot of technical terminology BUT it does not mean that he is not an engineer or he or any other can not invent a new device in this world, the history is full of such inventions even Thomas Edison who had invented more than 200 things and more than 1000 patents are there in his name was not even educated in a middle school, so Hudhud bhoy and Ata ur rehman like ‘fake scientists’ are trying to make a joke of Agha Waqar and humiliating him so that nobody in Pakistan ever try or dare to think ‘out of box’.
I do not know that Agha’s claim is true or not as this needs to be verified, but I would suggest to stop these ata ur rehman and hudhud like “scientists” who have been continuously stealing the resources of this poor nation with their “charb zabani” the Copy and Paste or Ratta an Vomit type fake “scientists”
Agha’s claim needs to be tested and verified as blackbox only and he seems more than happy to undergo with this, all the “theories” matters will come after this blackbox testing, (wakeup, hudhud and party is not familiar with such stuff but you may study about ‘blackbox testing and validation’ procedure by googling it)
All junk scientists get their facts from Google. Ever heard of things called "books"?
I am sorry to all the decent people in this forum for cramming this space but if you read the exchange below between a joker called @Scientist and myself, you will realise why I am so angry with him. I just cannot believe his hypocrisy, bigotry and intellectual shallowness– he is supposed to be a scientist but never reveals which area of science he works in. He just keeps posting lame sermons, platitudes, and racist rantings about nothing. These are the termites that are eating our intellectual capital as a nation and I mean to get even with this force of darkness. I know you are being nice and trying to make peace but there can be no peace with janglis! So please bear with me a bit more until this idiot is shut up.
Dear "wakeup" the problem with you is that you are dealing a scientific matter in an emotional and non-academic style with using very low grade vocabulary!
Everybody has a right to differ with any point but this difference in 'the point of view' should be discussed in an academic style.
one point of view is that:
Just because Agha Waqar is a poor man he is not educated in expensive 'so called' institutes, he is unfortunately not able to explain his ideas in good English or good Urdu, he may also not be able to use a lot of technical terminology BUT it does not mean that he is not an engineer or he can not invent a new device in this world, the history is full of such inventions even Thomas Edison who had invented more than 200 things and more than 1000 patents are there in his name was not even educated in a middle school, so Hudhud bhoy and Ata ur rehman like 'fake scientists' are trying to make a joke of Agha Waqar and humiliating him so that nobody in Pakistan every try to think 'out of box'.
I do not know that Agha’s claim is true or not as this need to be verified, but I would suggest to stop these ata ur rehman and hudhud like “scientists” who have been continuously stealing the resources of this poor nation with their “charb zabani” the Copy and Paste or Ratta an Vomit type fake “scientists”
Agha's claim needs to be tested and verified as blackbox only and he seems more than happy to undergo with this, all the "theories" matters will come after this blackbox testing, (wakeup, hudhud and party is not familiar with such stuff but you may study about 'blackbox testing and validation' by googling it)
All junk scientists get their facts from Google. Ever heard of things called “books”?
AGHA WAQAR.
I DONT KNOW WHY I TRUST YOU BROTHER, THERE IS TRUTH IN YOUR EYES. MAY ALLAH HELP YOU IN YOUR MISSION FOR THE SAKE OF MY NATION
What water-fuelled cars are not A water-fuelled car is not any of the following:
Water injection which is a method for cooling the combustion chambers of engines by adding water to the incoming fuel-air mixture, allowing for greater compression ratios and reduced engine knocking (detonation).
The hydrogen car, although it often incorporates some of the same elements. To fuel a hydrogen car from water, electricity is used to generate hydrogen by electrolysis. The resulting hydrogen is then either burned in the car's engine or merged with oxygen to create water via a fuel cell. The car ultimately receives its energy from electricity that may come from the power grid, with the hydrogen acting as an energy carrier.
Hydrogen fuel enhancement, where a mixture of hydrogen and conventional hydrocarbon fuel is burned in an internal combustion engine, usually in an attmpt to improve fuel economy or reduce emissions
ARAY BAHAS TU US BAT PAR HONI CHAHEYE, JO AGAR KOI YE FARMOLA LIKH KAR DUNYA SE JACHUKA HO, YE MOHTARAM SHAKHS TU BA HAYAT HEN, TAMAAM BA WQAAR MUHTARMEEN KO CHAHEYE K WO KHUD AKAR, YA ENKO BOLA KAR APNE SAAMNE ENKI KITT KO PRECTICAL KARLEN, AGER YE SACHAY HEN, TU ENKO SALAAM PESH KAREN, GALAT HAI TO JAIL MEN DAALEN, NAHI, 95% BHI SAHE HAI, TU 100% K LIYE SAB MIL KER ES PAR KAM KAREN PAKISTAN K LIYE, ……………… AB YAHAN BAITH KER GALIAN DENA , BEWAQOOF BOLNA, KHUD BEWAQOOF HONE KI DALEEL HAI.
Dear friends, without blaming each other, we must be practical, if scientists do not believe in Agha Waqar, they must test the kit scientifically, and regarding physics and scientific theory and laws, they can be modified,
According to my information, electrolysis can not done in distilled water.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQrI8_l3J_Y&fe…
another case
It can be. Distilled water is a poor conductor of electricity and therefore requires huge amount of energy for electrolysis, which makes it commercially unviable. To overcome that problem catalyst is added.. That is why you hear the name carbide. Despite adding catalyst the energy retrieved from hydrogen is less than the energy required for electrolysis. Lot of research is going on around the world to find a way for cheap electrolysis. When done you will have cars running on water.
Pseudo scientist, the string of exchange I had with you earlier was not without purpose. Within the span of a few emails, it established the following facts:
1. You are a pseudo scientist, who when challenged on his racist rants in a civilised way, sheds his facade of civility and turns into the fascist, bigot that you really are
2. It proved that you belong to the army of imbecile retards who never miss a chance to bend reality based on twisted logics. You walk, eat, sleep and dream GORA inventions like phone, electricity, computer, fridge, car, TV, watch, internet, email, medicines and a million others but always use racist slurs to describe the GORA achievements. Shows your inferiority complex and victim mentality.
3. Always prefer to be screwed over by the Muslim Ummah for a few dirhams. Despite the most despicable treatment meted out to them by their supposedly Arab brothers, you and your ilk never say a word against them. Live in frigging Saudi as a labourer for a few years and you will know what slavery in modern world means, you Ummah arse licker
4. Always confuse the great Muslim inventions of the past with the pathetic state of affairs in the present. Since 1300 AD, with a few exceptions, we have not even invented a screw, mostly because of lost souls like you who have forgotten the great traditions of Al Bayruni, Al Khawarizmi, etc. These masters took the numeral system from India ( that is why it is called “Hindsa” in Arabic, dimwit) , Greek philosophy, Roman administration and combined and refined it with new thought to create one of the most advanced societies on this planet, not by calling it all GORA inventions, you moron!
5. I also established that you are such a baighairat that you will carp about the GORA science and then continue to use the GORA Internet to waste my time with your pathetic rants.
So, within a few emails, you were forced to shed your ” oh, I am so please to see this healthy debate….” facade and become the bigot, racist, retard, cave-dwelling retard you are. And now you end your email with PEACE? You take your peace and shove it up your jangli arse. I am determined to crush any bigot who ever comes across my way with reason and facts for me, it is another form of Jihad on Satan-worshipped like you who spread fitna amongst the impressionable youth in our unfortunate country. My message to all my Pakistani brethren out there is this: learn as much as you can from the West. That is where knowledge resides today. The balance is changing now and other countries are catching up (especially China and India) but it will take a lifetime before this process is complete. Ignore the hateful rantings of morons like this pseudo Sientist– he is just a pathetic, angry loser who will take you down with him!
Carbide does not help hydrolysis, you moron! If added, it creates acetylene gas. To boost electrolysis, NaCl is added which is table salt. What field of science did you get your education in other than busllshitting to the world with generic high minded crap which has no scientific relevance whatsoever. Pure bigot, jangli, cave- dwelling, retarded, self-important Neanderthal
On the carbide part you are right and I mis-spelled. There are a variety of catalysts including NaCl for electrolysis. But on your communication skills I appear to be right. This type of vocabulary is only used by people or kids like you who grow up in such circumstances with the relevant experience. The time though is not lost. Consult a psychiatrist they can generally provide you therapy for your bad experiences. I will, however, keep helping you to the best possible extent. That is a good scientific project. Isn't it?
You moron, having failed at physics, you have now become a social scientist and spiritual leader, trying to show me the right path. You pathetic soul, what will you do next? Tell me to wear Pukhraj for good luck? Charlatans like you have been slowly eating our society from the inside like a plague. I only wish Allah, in his infinite mercy, make you see the light. But given Satan's grip on your soul, redemption may be difficult.
Now go back to your your purchoon shop and leave science to scientists, you bigot, hypocrite, jangli, retaded, self important Neanderthal!
It is good to see you randomly remembering Allah. The therapy is working and the evil spirit in you is escaping. I shall continue to help you until then. Few more sessions and you will forget the bad treatment of early childhood. You will then be a productive member of the society. Until then I am with you kid.
Shall I wear the Pukhraj on Monday or Tuesday? And, also, I think there are electrical wires hanging out of your arse!
Good. Your improvement is very fast. You have used only one bad word this time. Try to shed it too and you will be free of the shackles of your childhood nightmares. Don't be afraid, I am with you kid.
O God, why are you fighting with each other? Everyone is not perfect in everything. We are here to discuss the technique which Agha Waqar and now Qamar Khan are claiming that they used to drive the car.
Pathetic bigot, hypocrite, retarded, jangli, self-important, Neanderthal. Oops, I think you have been proven to be a fake pir as well as the treatment has not worked. May I suggest you try selling your arse to earn a living. But please take the electrical wires out first.
There is a verse in the Quran that translates into: we have put locks on their eyes, their ears, their hearts and they will never learn. This surely is directed at reality-bending bigots and hypocrites like you.
Please quote me a verse from Quran that justifies the use of foul language and calling names. I can quote you some that prohibits use of such language. And also please do not mix your filthy language and verses of Quran in one post. Doing so reflects total lack of morality and faith in your personality. The treatment continues.
Put some carbide in your arse to aid the hydrolysis process. Seems like you are running out of hydrogen gas, you pseudo scientist and fake pir! I will continue my emails until you beg for,forgiveness from Allah for spreading fitna and from the honest people in this forum who have been subjected to your utterly bullshit, high minded, self important, rants which have zero,scientific content. Bigot, hypocrite, retarded, jangli, self important, shallow, pathetic, charlatan, Neanderthal! I will treat it as part of Jihad to intellectually defeat fitna producers, like you. This is the intellect you get in an inbred, incestuous family like yours. The counter punch continues…
I am sorry @beat for cramming this space but if you read the tete-a-tete between this joker and myself, you will realise why I am so angry with him. I just cannot believe his hypocrisy, bigotry and intellectual shallowness– he is supposed to be a scientist but never reveals which area of science he works in. He just keeps posting lame sermons, platitudes, and racist rantings about nothing. These are the termites that are eating our intellectual capital as a nation and I mean to get even with this force of darkness. I know you are being nice and trying to make peace but there can be no peace with janglis! So please bear with me a bit more until this idiot is shut up.
The treatment is working. Atleast you have learnt to say sorry. It appears from your rantings that you are actually the one from Lahore on this show. No wonder why people hate you. Your language, style and vengeance is reflective of your character's shallowness. You have now been exposed Gora's slave. By the way what are your achievements in science. Nothing. I pity your students. Don't play in the hands of your masters. Shed off your hate and accept that you are an eternal failure not only in science but also in real life relations too. These are too many ailments that you are suffering from. I will keep continue with your treatment and inshaAllah you will improve.
You did not quote any verse. You know why because there isn't one.
You not only need moral education but physical treatment too. You have proven all my suspicion about your class, background, education and worst of all slavery of gora. Leave this country and go back to where you have returned. The way you use their slangs speaks volumes about what they have done to you morally and physically. Diagnosis is complete. Treatment continues. ROFL.
Inbred Idiot, who the hell are you to tell me to leave the country. Why don't you go back to the Afghan cave you came from, you jangli! And you have the audacity to still use the GORA computer to spew your bullshit. There is no treatment for lost sould like you. Okay, now you tell me the verse from the Quran that says that you should not treat vermin like vermin? Bigot, hypocrite, retard, jangli, shallow, self important, intellectually bankrupt, racist, pygmy Neanderthal. Now shove another water kit up your arse but don't forget to pull pull out the electric wires–the carbide might burst into a flame of acetylene, welding your arse to the chair.
The treatment is working. Atleast you have learnt to say sorry. It appears from your rantings that you are actually the one from Lahore on this show. No wonder why people hate you. Your language, style and vengeance is reflective of your character’s shallowness. You have now been exposed Gora’s slave. By the way what are your achievements in science. Nothing. I pity your students. Don’t play in the hands of your masters. Shed off your hate and accept that you are an eternal failure not only in science but also in real life relations too. These are too many ailments that you are suffering from. I will keep continue with your treatment and inshaAllah you will improve.
Baighairat, you continue to use GORA invention like the Internet to spew your hatred. If your eyes work, you will be able to read that I never denied the GORA colonization–I stated that the powerful always control the weak, regardless of their skin colour, you pathetic, inbred, self important, jangli. Read my posts again and you will see I mentioned how your Ummah brothers in the Middle East piss on your face and laugh. I think too much acetylene gas has gone from your arse to your eyes, ears and head. I never claimed to be a scientist, you did so the burden of proof is on you, not me. And you come up with the completely factually incorrect statement that carbide helps electrolysis!!! If you read my first response to your original email, you will realize that I only used civilised language to critique your completely unscientific reference to GORA everything. But there is a phrase in Punjabi: jiho jiya mun, oho jai chapair. And you pathetic wanna be Sherlock Holmes, I am not from Lahore, never was. It is your racist inclinations that are buried deep in you heart that you continue to deny, that keep coming out and lead you this conclusions you pull out of your tired old arse. And finally, if who you so disrespectfully call people like me slaves of the GORA studied western science, which frigging science did you read? The one from the Yemen Republic of Al Qaeda? I am not a science teacher so don't pity anyone. But I shake in fear on what mumbo jumbo you are pumping into the hearts and minds of the innocent who look up to you to teach them something. You are the pied piper who, being a loser in his profession, will take his failures out on his pupils by turning their creativity into a dung pile of inferiority complex and racial hatred, a mindset which is mostly responsible for the Somalification of Pakistan. Why don't you tell us what area of science you belong to, you Nobel laureate? Welding is acetylene is called welder, not scientists, you inbred, Pygmy Neanderthal. Only within two days of your first holier-than-thou email, your true fascist colours have started to come out. You have started asking to ostracise me publicly and have start dropping hints that I am insulting the religion. Your next move will be to ask for a death sentence for me, you pathetic savage. Barbarians like you who, aft failing to get a grant, or a visa to study abroad, or a transfer to the city of your choice, or a promotion turn into holy warriors of science. You dimwit, you can't even invent a tooth pick. And finally, when I use English, gou complain that I am using GORA slang but you use the same language as if your mother brought it innher jahaiz from Somalia. The actual problem is that, just like your intellectual mojo, your vocabulary and command of the GORA language is quite poor due to your pea sized brain. You have proved that you are dickhead and a failed scientist, spiritual leader, gem dealer, and sleuth. Bigot, hypocrite, jangli, self important, retarded, shallow, intellectually bankrupt, pygmy, cave dwelling, lic eating Neanderthal!
The saga of Agha waqar's water car controversy may continue for sometime but it will eventually come to an end in two ways: either Agha Waqar fails to demonstrate his claims or he succeeds. Let us try to figure out how each scenario will unravel.
In the first scenario, you may not see any further follow up program on tv shows, some people who played up all this drama will not like to talk about it anymore. The throats of the few people raising their voice on the entire issue will dry up and they will become silent. After sometime everything will be forgotten.
In the second case, which appears to be a hypothetical one, many unrelated people would rush forward to take the credit for it and you may not hear Agha Waqar's name ever again.
In both the scenarios the state does not appear to be a player. Why? Because the system of slavery left behind by gora and perpetuated by the power wielders has corrupted the system so much that essentially institutions have stopped functioning. No one dares to come forward to put an end to the story for fear of unknown and that Unknown is not fictitious. It is real but no one can unveil it. You see that unknown all the time on your electronic and print media. Unknown murderers, unknown terrorist, unknown robers, thieves and many more.
At least we can appreciate the power of social media and Internet where people can express their views freely. But freedom has its own limits which some of us do not understand. Your freedom stops where someone else's nose begins. Despite these limitations the engine of change is functioning albeit grudgingly without breaking laws of physics. However, for the engine to function most efficiently it must challenge the status quo…. Break those laws and enact new ones. Khairpur leads and Lahore/ Karachi lag in doing so.
No, I disagree. In the first case (which will be the only case), all retards chasing this mirage will be asked to shove the useless water kit up their arse with the battery wires dangling out for dramatic effect! Readers, if you want to see how the brain of this pseudo Scientist works, please see the exchange between him and myself below. What a waste of time this cave-dweller is!
Nice change. You have agreed with me twice. Now please also change your filthy vocabulary. A foul vocabulary makes you repulsive. Turn your creativity in beautifying the world and that will help you become charming too. Won't you like that kid?
Stop the regurgitating the same vomit over and over agai, you bullshitter par excellenc! Everyone can scroll down and see your childish rants below and you are calling me a kid? You are so pathetic I actually feel sorry for you.. By the way, I am sure you will look great with electrical wires hanging out of your sagging arse!
Please don't forget kid that use of foul language is despised all around the world. It also reflects bad on your education and background. I am positive there is yearning inside you to become a good man. That's easy but requires a little bit of self control. Believe me such effort not only won't break the man made laws of physics but also be inline with our cultural values.
My cultural value dictates never to go near maggots like you! I am getting convinced that you were raped by. Mullah as a child which has completely crushed your balance, you pathetic slug
Moron, the string of exchange I had with you earlier was not without purpose. Within the span of a few emails, it established the following facts:
1. You are a pseudo scientist, who when challenged on his racist rants in a civilised way, sheds his facade of civility and turns into the fascist, bigot that you really are
2. It proved that you belong to the army of imbecile retards who never miss a chance to bend reality based on twisted logics. You walk, eat, sleep and dream GORA inventions like phone, electricity, computer, fridge, car, TV, watch, internet, email, medicines and a million others but always use racist slurs to describe the GORA achievements. Shows your inferiority complex and victim mentality.
3. Always prefer to be screwed over by the Muslim Ummah for a few dirhams. Despite the most despicable treatment meted out to them by their supposedly Arab brothers, you and your ilk never say a word against them. Live in frigging Saudi as a labourer for a few years and you will know what slavery in modern world means, you Ummah arse licker
4. Always confuse the great Muslim inventions of the past with the pathetic state of affairs in the present. Since 1300 AD, with a few exceptions, we have not even invented a screw, mostly because of lost souls like you who have forgotten the great traditions of Al Bayruni, Al Khawarizmi, etc. These masters took the numeral system from India ( that is why it is called “Hindsa” in Arabic, dimwit) , Greek philosophy, Roman administration and combined and refined it with new thought to create one of the most advanced societies on this planet, not by calling it all GORA inventions, you moron!
5. I also established that you are such a baighairat that you will carp about the GORA science and then continue to use the GORA Internet to waste my time with your pathetic rants.
So, within a few emails, you were forced to shed your ” oh, I am so please to see this healthy debate….” facade and become the bigot, racist, retard, cave-dwelling retard you are. And now you end your email with PEACE? You take your peace and shove it up your jangli arse. I am determined to crush any bigot who ever comes across my way with reason and facts for me, it is another form of Jihad on Satan-worshipped like you who spread fitna amongst the impressionable youth in our unfortunate country. My message to all my Pakistani brethren out there is this: learn as much as you can from the West. That is where knowledge resides today. The balance is changing now and other countries are catching up (especially China and India) but it will take a lifetime before this process is complete. Ignore the hateful rantings of morons like this pseudo Sientist– he is just a pathetic, angry loser who will take you down with him!
Please don’t forget kid that use of foul language is despised all around the world. It also reflects bad on your education and background. I am positive there is yearning inside you to become a good man. That’s easy but requires a little bit of self control. Believe me such effort not only won’t break the man made laws of physics but also be inline with our cultural values.
ھوائی جہاز کی رفتار سے کھوتے کو چلانے کا حیرت انگیز کامیاب تجربہ:
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رپورٹ: جامد پیر
چیں چوں کی ملیاں کے بائیو انجینئیر غلام سکھی نے پوری دنیا کو حیرت زدہ کر دیا جب انہوں نے مومی اسمبلی کے سامنے صرف تین روپے کے خرچے سے ایک کھوتے کو ہوائی جہاز کی رفتار سے دوڑا دیا۔ انہوں نے کہا کہ اس نسخے پر عمل کرتے ھوے ہمارے کحلاڑی اولمپکس میں گولڈ میڈل لے کر عالمی سپیڈ کا ریکارڈ توڑ سکتے ہیں۔ کیبنٹ کے وزراء نے اس ایجاد کو اس صدی کا سب سے بڑا کارنامہ قرار دیا ھے۔
بائیو انجینئیر غلام سکھی نے ملک و قوم کی بھلائ میں نسخہ بھی راز نہیں رکھا، نسخہ یہ ھے: ایک روپے کی لال مرچ، دو روپے کا گندہ تیل، ایک عدد ڈنڈا، اس نسخے پر جب بعض بےوقوفوں نے اعتراض کیا کہ اس سے تو گانڈ پھٹ جائے گی، تو بائیو انجینئیر غلام سکھی نے جواب دیا کہ پاکستان میں عوام کی پہلے ہی پھٹی ہوئی ھے لہذا اس سے کوئی فرق نہیں پڑے گا۔ انہوں نے مزید بتایا کہ زیادہ سپیڈ کے لیئے ڈنڈے کا سائز اور موٹائی حسب منشا اور حسب گانڈ بڑھائی جاسکتی ھے۔
ڈاکٹر ھدھد کے اعتراض پر انہوں نے چیلنج کیا کہ وہ یعنی بائیو انجینئیر غلام سکھی، ڈاکٹر ھدھد کی گانڈ میں ڈنڈا دے کر انہیں بھی فراری کی رفتار سے دوڑا سکتے ہیں، آزمائش شرط ھے۔
What about the challenge results of a physics teacher?
http://tribune.com.pk/story/418245/mnas-brother-c…
Reward amount was 5 million and challenge was valid for 15 days and the article was posted on 6 August 2012. Agha Waqar accepted the challenge and then what? 24 days have passed and there is no mention of the results. This is becoming clear that whenever there is real technical analysis of his device he will not attend it.
Can anybody present a justification for Agha regarding this case?>
Imran Khan runs away from Faisal Raza Abidi’s debate(Munazra) challenge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbxm83HYPNU
Baph, Beta(PPP/PML) Noora kushti……..Two gays (Abidi, Mushahid) expressing love affair publically.
http://www.zemtv.com/2012/08/16/%d8%a7%d8%b3%db%9…
fasil raza………my foot……IMRAN KHAN….ZINDHA BAD
wakeup says:
September 1, 2012 at 4:07 am
You are a third grade person and I do not want to gratify you with an answer but your resaponae compels me to one. I hope you are not suggesting that you invented the mobile phone, or are you? Why are you such a racist and a bigot? Were you born that way or did you actually take classes for it? Hate is a disease that destroys the body that carries it, so you better watch out. I just pointed out the facts that most modern inventions are Gora made. Are you trying to contest that? You seem to be more interested in toilet habits. Now, as I said, to put your words where your mouth is, shed all modern Gora made inventions right now or you will be the biggest hypocrite on his planet. I can’t believe your twisted logic of literally swimming in a Gora made world and then complaining about it. If you ever drink cold water out of a fridge or call some one on the phone or write another response to this note on a computer (to quote a few examples) you will by default become the biggest baighairat on this planet. And you call yourself a scientist! Now go get on your camel and start your journey to the caves of Yemen.
"Khasyani billi Khama nochay". ROFL
You used the GORA email again and have proved that you are the biggest BAIGHAIRAT around. It is imbecile fascists like you who, when confronted on their own bigotry, cast all pretences of being a "scientist" aside and immediately degenerate into the cave-dwelling Neanderthals that they truly are. You are a crushed mentality full of inferiority complex. Must have been denied the US visa or a promotion because you did not qualify and you have now turned that rejection unto an anti GORA tirade. And as far as oppressing the weak is concerned, it is not only the GORAS who do it. Look around you in Pakistan and you will plenty of savages around you oppressing their weak Muslim "brothers." Another example is the treatment meted out to what our Arab egalitarian brothers consider the "Pakistani Trash' in the middle east. They are treated worst than slaves and they pay the GORAS double the pay of what they pay any one from our unfortunate homeland. The strong always oppress the weak, not matt what the colour of their skin. It is because of Satan-worshipped like you that our. Our country has fallen so far behind and really pray to Allah to show you the right way.
A parting quote from a famous GORA philosopher that truly captures the state of you mind: the mind of a bigot is like the pupil,of the eye; the more light you shine on it, the more it contracts. Now go back to the world made by GORAS, you friggin dimwit freak!
The more you scream, the more you prove yourself an idiot evolving into an evil. Go on screaming!
You pathetic, lost soul. Now your vocabulary has been reduced to a few words. Even the Hawaiian language with 13 letters can do better than that. What happened to the eloquent, pseudo, Taliban inspired Scientist spreading his anti GORA wisdom. A true BAIGHAIRAT you are, keep using GORA invented technology. Bigot, hypocrite, dimwit, retarded, cave-dwelling Neanderthal!
Scream louder, I can't hear you.
Bigot, hypocrite, racist, retardrd, cave-dwelling, Neanderthal. Is that loud enough, Mullah Omar?
You appear to be choking. Try harder.
One eyed leader, I think you need to have your ears examined. I would have recommended an ENT specialist to fit a hearing aid but unfortunately that is GORA invented technology. Given your bigoted aversion to GORA technology (despite being it it up to your arse every single minute of the day) I suggest you use local technology and go the hakim in the neighbouring cave and may be he can stretch a rat's dick into an ear drum and fit it into your ear and give you a few "phakis" to shove up your arse to ease the pain. Bigot, hypocrite, racist, cave-dwelling, retarded, Neanderthal!
Your improving. Keep trying.
I will. However, I have shut up your tirade against the GORA technology. Not a peep on it from you, you bigot, hypocrite, racist, reatrd, cave-dwelling, Neanderthal.
This string of exchanges was not without a purpose. I wanted to show you how you can input less energy and get more energy spent. My short sentences did not require any energy but your long responses consumed lot of energy. Include in that the wasted energy generated in your head and the energy you spent in waiting for my response. That is a lot more than the input. Isn't it? That's how you break second law of thermodynamics. But since your energies are all evil I don't need it. So don't waste your energies in waiting for further responses. Improve your brhaviour, character and impulsive reaction lest someone else take advantage of your weaknesses as I did. PEACE.
Bigot, hypocrite, racist, cave-dwelling, retarded, Neanderthal!
You are right moron, the string of exchanges was not without purpose. Within the span of a few emails, it established the following facts:
1. You are a pseudo scientist, who when challenged on his racist rants in a civilised way, sheds his facade of civility and turns into the fascist, bigot that you really are
2. It proved that you belong to the army of imbecile retards who never miss a chance to bend reality based on twisted logics. You walk, eat, sleep and dream GORA inventions like phone, electricity, computer, fridge, car, TV, watch, internet, email, medicines and a million others but always use racist slurs to describe the GORA achievements. Shows your inferiority complex and victim mentality.
3. Always prefer to be screwed over by the Muslim Ummah for a few dirhams. Despite the most despicable treatment meted out to them by their supposedly Arab brothers, you and your ilk never say a word against them. Live in frigging Saudi as a labourer for a few years and you will know what slavery in modern world means, you Ummah arse licker
4. Always confuse the great Muslim inventions of the past with the pathetic state of affairs in the present. Since 1300 AD, with a few exceptions, we have not even invented a screw, mostly because of lost souls like you who have forgotten the great traditions of Al Bayruni, Al Khawarizmi, etc. These masters took the numeral system from India ( that is why it is called "Hindsa" in Arabic, dimwit) , Greek philosophy, Roman administration and combined and refined it with new thought to create one of the most advanced societies on this planet, not by calling it all GORA inventions, you moron!
5. I also established that you are such a baighairat that you will carp about the GORA science and then continue to use the GORA Internet to waste my time with your pathetic rants.
So, within a few emails, you were forced to shed your " oh, I am so please to see this healthy debate…." facade and become the bigot, racist, retard, cave-dwelling retard you are. And now you end your email with PEACE? You take your peace and shove it up your jangli arse. I am determined to crush any bigot who ever comes across my way with reason and facts for me, it is another form of Jihad on Satan-worshipped like you who spread fitna amongst the impressionable youth in our unfortunate country. My message to all my Pakistani brethren out there is this: learn as much as you can from the West. That is where knowledge resides today. The balance is changing now and other countries are catching up (especially China and India) but it will take a lifetime before this process is complete. Ignore the hateful rantings of morons like this pseudo Sientist– he is just a pathetic, angry loser who will take you down with him!
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What a business? nonsense!
I have seen even a better one running a camel in Abu Dhabi– it's uses 100% bullshit, which is even cheaper than water. You can actually get it for free in this forum from suppliers such as PHPFAST. And if it turns out to be a hoax, you can always shove it up your arse with wires dangling out for a dramatic effect. Happy driving!
"Wakeup" you need to wake up now and come out of your cave of ignorance!
The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you shine on it, the more it contracts!
i am sub dealer of hydrogen kit USA….
convert your Car/ Generator to run on Hydrogen Fuel & save upto 35% to 55% petrol /diesel/cng Cost!
engine boost up/smooth running.
complete kit imported from USA.
minimum alteration to vehicle.
parts 1 year warranty,Cell LIFE TIME WARRANTY.
If you want to sell your kit faster, you should book an appearance on Capital Talk soon.
not usa made……..need pakistani made brother
Qasim
Why you have done this nonsense business??? when there is a kit available in Pakistan that can run a car on 100% water and you are importing a kit from many thousands miles from beyond 7 seas that can save only 35%
Do you have any business scene??? if no business sense then even at least get some common sense!
By the way anybody in your family had even been in business in your 10 generations?
What a business? nonsense!
This is not the right forum to discuss scientific inventions.
The forum doesnt matter my dear. agha waqar's body language clearly depicts that he is a simpleton and not as cunning n jealous as dr hood bhaay n the other one … at the end engineer agha waqar should have challenged both the sirkari scientists that if i am proven wrong i go to jail and if i prove to be correct then you both plus dr ata ur rehman must return all your degrees and stop teaching ….
am i right pakistaneez ?
All the idiots blogging here for the stupid water kit: I have a challenge for you. The “Engineer” has promised that he will release his “magic” water kit within 3-4 months. That means it should be out at a purchoon shop near you no later than January 2013. If by the end of that month, all you dimwits have not installed one in your car and started harnessing the free energy, I will personally award you the title of “The Biggest Arseholes, Morons in The World.” Any takers out there?
If you want to sell your kit faster, you should book an appearance on Capital Talk.
I feel happy to see all these intersting comments. It exposes many facets of our society and ushers in an era of healthy debate. Many of our people are expecting that a miracle is about to happen in this society. Actually a miracle has already taken place. It's not the invention of Agha Waqar but the process of thinking differently that is the miracle. Agha Waqar may or may not succeed but one of the peoples who start challenging the laws of physics eventually will. Kudos to Waqar and Hamid Mir for putting this process in motion in otherwise intellectually dead people, a product of slavery of gora perpetuated by morally corrupt power wielders. It is said that enslaved people remain slaves for hundred years after getting freedom. We are closing down on the figure 100 very fast and there we see signs of real freedom emerging in our thoughts and in our actions.
Science is a branch of arts in which the art is perfected so well that it can be performed by anyone who follows a certain set of principles. Obviously by altering these principles you will arrive at a different result. That is what is called process of discovery. We have now embarked on that path and see how soon many discoveries will come forth. This nation has produced only three great men: Jinnah, Dr Salam and Dr Qadeer Khan. This is too small a number. Let us increase that number to ten by the time we reach our full freedom age of hundred i.e. in another 35 years. I wish you all a happy and tolerant coexistence.
Wow, coming from a true patriot, shitting on all the gora inventions using gora language, gora computer, using gora electricity and gora Internet. Perhaps you can put a lid on your own hypocrisy and show some respect to all the mostly gora scientists who have made the world the way it is, good or bad, but definitely easier to live. Save your racist rants until we get at least 1000 Al Khawarizmi's amongst ourselves and I don't think they will come Khairpur Institutebof Technology.
Wow, I'm smelling some real gora arse kisser. Read an article written by gora and posted in CNN's website. Just google "Muslim inventions that shaped the modern world" as moderators of this website don't appear too friendly with posting URLs.
Idiot, that was in 1300 AD! Since then, it has been mostly idiots like you giving a bad name to both Islam and science. If you really hate all modern inventions, take the watch off, turn the computer off, turn the lights off, throw the mobile away, turn the TV off take your clothes off and ride a camel to go and sit in a jungle because all these inventions are GORA made. So many idiot janglis we have amongst ourselves. Allah, please show these satan worshippers the light! Now arsehole, how does it feel wiping your arse with a leaf in the jungle? Want your gora made mobile back to call for help?
No need to be hateful and abusive. Learn to be tolerant and civil. There was no hateful comment in my post. Do you deny the historical fact that gora enslaved us or that power wielders are corrupt. This simple statement actually shows superiority of gora and their achievements and we need to catch up. By the way just for my knowledge could you name the gora who invented mobile phone? As for cleaning the body after call of nature, who uses the leaf today? It's gora but they call it toilet paper. I am sure you don't do that or do you?
You are a third grade person and I do not want to gratify you with an answer but your resaponae compels me to one. I hope you are not suggesting that you invented the mobile phone, or are you? Why are you such a racist and a bigot? Were you born that way or did you actually take classes for it? Hate is a disease that destroys the body that carries it, so you better watch out. I just pointed out the facts that most modern inventions are Gora made. Are you trying to contest that? You seem to be more interested in toilet habits. Now, as I said, to put your words where your mouth is, shed all modern Gora made inventions right now or you will be the biggest hypocrite on his planet. I can't believe your twisted logic of literally swimming in a Gora made world and then complaining about it. If you ever drink cold water out of a fridge or call some one on the phone or write another response to this note on a computer (to quote a few examples) you will by default become the biggest baighairat on this planet. And you call yourself a scientist! Now go get on your camel and start your journey to the caves of Yemen.
Your Alias wakeup suits you so well. I will pray for you from the cave. Please just stop kissing Gora arses. I can hear the smacks through my iPad's (3rd generation) speakers that I had to turn the volume off.
You have also used the GORA email again and have proved that you, like your buddy Scientist, are the biggest BAIGHAIRATS around. It is imbecile fascists like you who, when confronted on their own bigotry, cast all pretences of being civilised aside and immediately degenerate into the cave-dwelling Neanderthals that they truly are. You are a crushed mentality full of inferiority complex. Must have been denied the US visa or a promotion because you did not qualify and you have now turned that rejection into an anti GORA tirade. And as far as oppressing the weak is concerned, it is not only the GORAS who do it. Look around you in Pakistan and you will see plenty of savages around you, oppressing their weak Muslim “brothers.” Another example is the treatment meted out to what our Arab "egalitarian" Ummah brothers consider the “Pakistani Trash’ in the middle east. They are treated worst than slaves and our Muslim "brothers" pay the GORAS double the pay of what they pay any one in any management position from our unfortunate homeland. The strong always oppress the weak, not matter what the colour of their skin. It is because of Satan-worshipped like you that our country has fallen so far behind and I really pray to Allah to show you the right way. There is a verse in the Quran that translates into: we have put locks on their eyes, their ears, their hearts and they will never learn. This surely is directed at reality-bending bigots and hypocrites like you.
Now go back to your GORA made iPad, you friggin dimwit freak to spew more bullshit to the impressionable young minds in our country. True and utter Taliban arse-licker!
ٹن ٹن ٹن ٹن گھنٹی بجے گی
پانی سے اب گاڑی چلے گی
روحِ نیوٹن چیخ پڑے گی
آئن سٹائن کی گانڈ پھٹے گی
سائنس داں کے منہ پر یارو
واٹر کٹ اب ٹٹی ملے گی
جادو منتر راج کرے گا
سائنس کی اب نہ دال گلے گی
کالج میں اب سائنس کے بدلے
محفل تُک بازوں کی جمے گی
اپنی قوم کی کیا پوچھو ہو؟
بعد میں کیسے ہاتھ ملے گی؟
بنڈ ان کی بھی خوب پھٹے گی
آخر میں بس ھاتھ ملے گی
AAGHA WAQAR WEELL DON ILAM OR MEHNAT KISI KI MIRRAJ NI HY WEL THINK ORR GAIN IT
Buck up Agha Waqar sir. Keep it up. Do not listen to your scientist.
hamid i can see from your body language that you are believing agha waqar, so are we…..please fallow him and keep us inform about every prograss of it brother, please keep us update. thank you hamid
afga waqar……. make your self, us and this nation proud. and last thing if you successful then every body will say the possitive role of media, and if you fail, then you know what can happen, even the people who bring you so for will be critisize hugely
all my friends are talking about your water kit in the uk, almost every pakistani talk about this KIT now. because we see hamid, and every thing he says we belive him….now we are believing you, even all the adds are against you. brother dont let your self and let us down please.
i can see hamid, his face, his body language, that he is trusting you, and thats why he gave you another chance to prove to the world that you can make it happen, agha waqar…please prove your self in days rather than months, for the sake of pakistani great nation……..
this debate is so hot now and i really want to see an end of it, but with the seccess of agha waqar for the sake of my nation…agha make it happen now otherwise it will be very very dissappointing for the country brother.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEDe143AqsI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEDe143AqsI
I am saying from day 1, he is junk scholar!
Minimum amount of Energy Required to drive a normal car = 15hp = 15 x 746 = 11190w
Car Electrical Generator Capacity = 14v x 40A = 560w
H2O + Energy (max energy the car electrical system can provide 560w for electrolysis ) ——–> H + OH ——- ENGINE ——–> H20 + Energy (11190w to drive car + 560w for electrolysis + other losses)
HANG THESE SO CALLED NATIONAL SCIENTIST ATTA AND PERVEZ LIKE….THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING WITH NATION BUT ENJOYED THE PERKS AND PRIVILIGES AND DESTROYED OUR GENERATION FUTURE…..
MR. AGHA WAQAR IS THE INNOCENT HAVING NO SPEECH POWER, CAN NOT EXPLAIN IN A WAY THAT THESE DONKEYS WANTS, HE IS REPRESENTING THE ALL PAKISTANIS THAT ARE LIKE HIM INNOCENT BUT CAN DO A VERY LOT THINGS, BUT THESE PRO ESTABLISHMENT, LOBBIES SUPPORTED DONKEYS WILL NEVER LET THESE TALENTED YOUTHS TO COME ON AND BREAK THE LAWS OF SCIENCE……….
You are not a very bright person. The so called "WATER KIT" was all over the United States when Gas prices went up from 1 dollar per gallon to almost 4 dollars. This water kit does not work by itself, but in addition to your current fuel. It requires Electrical energy to split H2O molecules to create hydrogen. You have to add Something else to the water. So in conclusion.
You still need fuel
You need to refill water, and add something to it.
You need electrical energy to run it.
I can not believe this buffoon Agha Waqar is claiming something as his own invention, and Government of Pakistan is putting renowned scientists infront of this clown. You can buy this kit on ebay any day, but they damage your car.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SMART-CELL-HHO-GENERATOR-…
You are a true inspiration to science. When you don't get your way, you openly call for violence! I am sure you went to a Taliban school.
I am really stunned to see such comments here…….i was thinking that our nation might have excelled in science a LITTLE BIT…..but we are still in stone age thinking of inventing the wheel!!!
Lets put science aside, we dont even have common sense…..we just close our eyes on facts and laws of nature……secondly we dont have any patience left in us, we straight away come to violence and cursing and abusing each other!!!
Thats why i say WE DESERVE TO BE HUMILIATED BY OTHER NATIONS!!!!
I truly, truly empathize with you, Aero Gallian. The more we wish and try to get the land we love back on track, the more the army of fascist, imbeciles being raised in our schools pulls us back. I can only imagine what rational people had to go through in medeival Europe!
Clouds are made of water … There are 5000000 volts and 500000 ampere during lightning . How could this possible? What is the source of energy there?
I dont know why it is taking so long to examine the kit. Many of inventions took place accidentally.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning
Here we go–it is static electricty. You could have looked it up yourself but hey, conspiracy theory is so much more fun! Are you going to take the challenge posted below? I am keeping a list.
I have already read this. I am not taking his side. My point is "what is the reason behind the delay in examination of waterkit? Emission test is very simple"
All the idiots blogging here for the stupid water kit: I have a challenge for you. The "Engineer" has promised that he will release his "magic" water kit within 3-4 months. That means it should be out at a purchoon shop near you no later than January 2013. If by the end of that month, all you dimwits have not installed one in your car and started harnessing the free energy, I will personally award you the title of "The Biggest Arseholes, Morons in The World." Any takers?
I don't know why i m wasting my valuable time with u….
u seems to be good for nothing….let see what happen….he is telling lie or truth…this will be clear even before 3 months…if he'll be examined by professional engineers who have real knowledge and not theorist like u….
U must control ur language…may be u talk in this language with ur father as well when he sometime teach u to respect others…
"Shut Up Ass hole…u are not my father…i born by myself.."
learn how to respect other and be respected….
This is supposed to be a scientific discussion, not a lecture on linguistics. But just to let you know, it was my father who taught me how to deal with shitheads who do not listen to reason. If you are so keen on proving the Engineer right, why don't you write to Hamid Mir and ask him to do a live show in which the "Engineer" fits a water kit on his car–he had actually offered that in his show on July 31.
You are way out of your depths here. Now stop picking your nose and swim in the shallow end!
You are pathetic. In reality you don't know English, nor you have any knowledge on science, you just copy and paste a few lines from Internet.
But it is interesting to see that you are in this post every day doing same old copy / paste targeting any one who would like to support an ordinary Pakistani like Agha.
Man – go get a life.
Secondly, language you use like "shit head" it is all state of mind – you are what you think, which in your case "Shit head" runs in your family as it was taught to you by your Abba Jee.
Oh, the BUMBLE BEE is back again bzzzz bzzzz bzzzz. You are some character! Readers, please look at all his postings below and all the rebuttals many sane people have posted against the only theory he knows, which he got from the internet and you decide who is a professional "Cut and Paste" intellectual. It is because of crackpots like this that we are dropping so far behind in the league of nations!
I will support any Pakistani whose inventions have been proved in a scientific test, not in a blog attracting some true oafs! Now take a pill that the psychiatrist prescribed and go to bed, you pathetic lunatic!
Agha Waqar has proved that,,,
It is very easy to dupe people of Pakistan
and play with their feelings and sentiments…
Our media has proved that it can project
a white lie as universal truth and natural laws…
and other scientists have proved that they
are not even able to coup with a lay man and
his untrue claims ….
Shame on us as a Nation
Lets leave the science and technicalities aside, I have reasonable evidence to believe that Agha Waqar is a fraud. It has been over a month and he had never given a thorough demonstration of his device to any real scientist for a close examination. He said NUST refused to see his demonstration. I really doubt that statement.
What about the challenge results of a physics teacher?
http://tribune.com.pk/story/418245/mnas-brother-c…
Reward amount was 5 million and challenge was valid for 15 days and the article was posted on 6 August 2012. Agha Waqar accepted the challenge and then what? 24 days have passed and there is no mention of the results. This is becoming clear that whenever there is real technical analysis of his device he will not attend it.
Now, he is asking for another 3 months or so (which could be 3 years) for his device to be a marketable product.
Now, its upto individual to decide if he is a fraud or genius but before that consider the former and latter queries.
1 – Did he got the patent for his device?
2 – From where he is getting all the finance required for mass production?
3 – Can you really get finance for a product without it being thoroughly tested?
4 – If thoroughly tested where are the official results?
5 – Instead of wasting time discussing things why doesn't he just simply put his device in some scientist's car and run it?
6 – What about explanation of Dr. Samar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BurKEHwRhXE.
7 – Will he be ready for the carbon test (as mentioned by Hoodbhoy) in a few days?
8 – If he is really right he should have been killed or abducted so far. Because, they wouldn't let us do that.
Decide for yourself.
Dear Agha Waqar,
Please do not response in the same words they attack you. They will do their best to make you mad to get out the equation with which you break water and remix hydrogen and oxygen. That is all what you have do not spit out it in anger, please be very cool and calm when you on the media, how many in how many countries are watching you. The test that Hoodby is suggesting is not a fair because any old car is going to have lot of carbon deposits in the exhaust.
Coca cola, Kentucky Fried chicken formulas are kept under high secrets what to say of that you may have achieved.
I am not a man of science, but believe firmly that water is the greatest source of energy. There has to be a cheaper way to break it to use hydrogen as a fuel. Our planet will run out of oil and gas in the next 25 years. According to Pervaiz Hoodby, Shaukat Hameed and Attu r Rahman the life will cease to exist because there will be no energy left accept solar and wind which may or may not run the automobiles, airplanes and industries in the near future, but Allah SWT who has created it has made the arrangements as well for those who may not see a drop of oil and gas in the near future. The future generations energy needs will be met from hydrogen breaking the water. Let it be written on the wall. No other science has taken more U turns than the medical science and keeps taking every 10 years so will the laws of thermodynamics.
Ejaz Khokhar
Seattle
agha waqar is the best
Mr. Scientist has explained it in a very simple language so beautifully that it should open the eyes of our scientists. What Agha should say clearly that he is not producing energy, but is just splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen that water is made of and hydrogen itself is energy. Even a child knows that hydrogen burns and oxygen helps burning. So Agha might have accidently or with his research hit a formula to split the water in to gasses and remix them with a ratio that can create a proper pressure to run any motor.
The only thing Pervaiz Hoodby, Shaukat Hameed and Atta ur Rahman should dispute is that energy required to split the water in to gasses is more than its output and all Agha should say no I have hit an equation that requires less energy than the output it can give. For God sake forget the water, forget the cars, forget the storage and all the other crap that these scientists should not be talking about. I am not a scientist, my IQ may not be more that 60 and I can understand what Agha is saying how come these scientists cannot just because they think that they have MIT degree. If these are the leading scientists of Pakistan the God have mercy on us.
Ejaz Khokhar
Seattle
HAHAHHA………what a joke you made of yourself when you said "B.Tech" Agha Waqar has hit an EQUATION in which energy required to break the bond is much less than the energy released during bond formation!!! LOL
The definition of an equation is that its both sides should bee equal, it doesnt requie a degree to know it JUST COMMON SENSE……which is not so common in B.Tech guys!!!!
Explanation is simple……….Energy required to break the water bond MUST BE EQUAL to the energy released when hydrogen burns with oxygen again to form water!!!! I dont know why people dont understand SUCH A SIMPLE THING!!!
3-5 people have been fined in america of around $25000-$30000 just on SUCH claims of water kits…….google it yourself!!!!
BAHOT PERHEY LIKHEY PER JAHIL SCIENCTISTS THAY !KAM AZ KAM BAAT SUNO ,DEMO DEKHO, CHECK KARO PHIR DOOSEREY ADMI KO KISI RAH PER LAGAO.YEH JAHIL BADTAMIZI KER RAHEY HEIN LUGTA HEY IIN SCIENCE DANOO KO PETROLIUM KI COMPANIES KOI WAZEFA DETI HEIN.
LEKIN AGAR ENGINE AGAR CO2 KHARIG KERTI HEY TOW PHIR BAHOT KHATARNAK HEY.
YEH BIJLI WIJLI GENERATE KERNA TOW KOI MASLA HE NAHI HEY AAJ HAWA ,PANI, COAL, PETROL OOR GOBAR GAS SEY BHI BIJLI PEYDA KI JA RAHI HEY JIS SEY AIR CONS CHUL RAHEY HEIN. YEH TOW BECHARA SIRF 12 VOLT SEY KIT CHALA RAHA HEY OOR HYDROGEN GAS PEYDA KER RAHA HEY SIRF 12 VOLT !
LUGTA HEY HAQOOMAT ISS INTERNATIONAL PUNGEY MEIN JANA NAHI CHAHATI.
Ya u are very right my Dear . I wish from my heart that my IMRAN KHAN picks up Mr Agha and soonafter provides him full support n encouragement and takes full control over energy crisis ….
i am sure if mr agha waqar is left alone he will be killed by the lazy lethargic useless good for nothing ARABS.
I am very sad with the behavior of our scientists and all of the credit of their behavior goes to the Business personalities on their back. As i am not a scientist or a physician i would simply say that iif the invention is economical that that of gasoline and petrol and also environment friendly than let him to do what ever Agha Waqar wants. If he is hiding any thing in his kit and still the kit is economical and environment friendly than he should launch it as it will help poor people to live comfortable life.
This link gives the idea of perpetual machine, all these ideas are proven wrong. The days of inventing something by chance are gone. All the things that could be invented by chance has already been invented. Science has become very advanced. Here is the link if someone wants to waste his time.
http://www.overunity.com/12026/perpetual-motion-m…
"All the things that could be invented by chance has already been invented."
One of the most stupidest and egoist statement I have ever heard.
dr. parvaze is very stoped person he is a eng but he dont know how to talk about anybody. yar agar kisi admi nay koi kam kiya ha wo such ha ya jhot tum log daykho our coments doo 1 one stoped atta and 2 one parvaze .
stoped person???
LOLs,
Conclusion from my end:
1-
Mr. Agha Waqar initially told us in his old interviews that he WILL NOT GO FOR A PATENT and let the government decide what to do. BUT now he is telling us that he will market it and launch his product for customers. Does it mean that the goverment quitely disengeged itself from this matter? and if so, then why? Does Waqar's claims failed to be verified?
2- Every thing Agha Waqar is telling us, since the begining, about electrolysis, combustion, is ALL KNOWN even to a secondary school student, Waqar NEVER told us what new technique, law, method, he created/invented/applied.
3-
When Dr. Samr Mubarak told the media in front of him that he has put hidden some other thing in his KIT, he did not deny.
4-
Waqar always tried to twist the topic, and appears to be very fond of takinf personal criticism, to make him appear an innocent kinda trol.
5-
His Circuis manager Hamid Mir, always interrupts, and/or appears to not giving enough times to the scientists he invites. Infact, Agha Waqar has done nothing, its Hamid Mir who iss playing game.
6- To understand a scientific phenomenon, an allustrative lecture is needed to address the audience who must alrady be educated to an appropriate level. Ignoring this, Hamid Mir tricks, and asking about scientific details and giving a minute to scientist to explain? what a joke? and by this he is ONLY misguiding the people.
7-
why and why? I again say WHY? why the technical details of te tests and inspection of hhis KIT not coming to us? afterall the government bodies were involved, do you think all those are stupid? Havent they made some initial tests?
8-
In reply of a demand; that the KIT has to be INSPECTED and EXAMINED, poor Waqar always says that he has demonstrated this by driving the car in front of dat dat? Does he, or Hamid Mir not know WHAT the word inspection and examined means?
9-
I am not giving here any Scientific arguements, although, as i am a scientist too, I know its just a waste of time, and giviing here only some logical arguements, I hope that people may think, instead of replying emotionally.
10-
We know that our people are living in a world that is surrounded by magic, miracles, peers, taweez, krishmaat etc, so the overall expectaions of the people is always to get an incredible thing out of nothing, just because they think in this way.
Dear Ali, if you do not have much resources even then at least get some real primary level education before commenting this nonsense.
Can you, hudhud or ata can run a car 1000 KM only on "taweez"?
Only thing to see is that the car is running on water or not, the car is already available many have already driven it, you, ata or hudhud can also drive it in front of media, you or these nonsense "animals" can also verify if there is any hidden fuel tank or not.
As far as mechanism of kit is concerned, Agha don't need to tell any one if he does not like as it is his trade secret and it is his legal right not to disclose the actual mechanism, no one is asking to ata or hudhud to explain the science or mechanism of the kit as if they knew that then they would themselves invent that kit but they have failed to give anything to the world in their entire life other than stealing millions of rupees from the resources of the poor nation.
We only need to see and verify that the car is purely running on water or not if it is than theories will come thereafter.
First law of thermodynamics: Heat and work are forms of energy transfer. Energy is invariably conserved but the internal energy of a closed system changes as heat and work are transferred in or out of it. Equivalently, perpetual motion machines of the first kind are impossible.
I think Aga waqar will need a solid-state auto battery as he needs to charge his battery after 50-60 kms. (If he needs to run his car on hydrogen fuel).
Please don't follow these hudhud type fake scientists and do not waste your brain's energy on thinking about thermodynamic laws etc right at this time, first of all with all positive/neutral mind and intentions someone has to verify that Agha's car is purely running on water or not (without any guesswork about his water kit's mechanism) if car is running unlimited miles purely on water then one can start thinking for the scientific explanation, all the theories will come after the verification of this practical prototype car.
If someone says that crow has taken your ear, don't start running before the crow first check your ear.
Ata ur rehman and hudhud are the fake scientists and they are running before the crow without checking their ears first.
I hope and I wish that Agha's car would be working on water but someone only need to carefully see that there is no hidden fuel tank is there an car is purely running on water for at least 500-1000 Kilo Meters
And if it turns out to be a hoax, I suggest professors atta and hudhud should personally shove the water kit up your ignorant arse until you have fully memorised all the laws of thermodynamics!
It is known that a gram-atom is equal to the atomic mass of a substance. A grammolecule is equal to themolecular mass of a substance. For example, the grammolecule of hydrogen in the water molecule is equalto two grams, while the gram-atom of the oxygen atom is 16 grams. The grammolecule of water is equal to18 grams. The mass of hydrogen in a water molecule is 2 x 100 / 18 = 11.11%. The oxygen mass is 16 x100 / 18 = 88.89%. This is the ratio of hydrogen and oxygen in one litre of water. It means that 111.11grams of hydrogen and 888.89 grams of oxygen are in 1000 grams of water. One litre of hydrogen weighs 0.09g. One litre of oxygen weighs 1.47g. This means that it is possible toproduce 111.11 / 0.09 = 1234.44 litres of hydrogen and 888.89 / 1.47 = 604.69 litres of oxygen from one litreof water. It appears from this, that one gram of water contains 1.23 litres of hydrogen. Energy consumptionfor the production of 1000 litres of hydrogen is 4 kWh and for one litre 4 Wh. As it is possible to produce1.234 litres of hydrogen from one gram of water, then, 1.234 x 4 = 4.94 Wh is spent in producing hydrogenfrom one gram of water using current methods of electrolysis
http://www.scribd.com/doc/46540019/Process-of-Wat…
hamid bhai……please fallow this man,s progress, and keep us inform as you did this time, thanks for your programme. respect for you
scientist says:
August 31, 2012 at 1:58 am
I have been following this hot debate on water car from the beginning. I am myself a scientist. More on that later.
Let us first talk about the behaviour of Pervaiz Hoodby, Shaukat Hameed and Atta ur Rahman. Their use of abusive, threatening and dismissive language not only speak of their shallow knowledge of science but of their low moral character as well. If they want to prove their superior scientific knowledge than they should quietly get togather with Agha Waqar, examine his claim and kit, find out element of fraud in it and then report to the police for a court proceeding against him. They should do this in the name of science, high moral ground and patriotism. Their behaviour on most viewed tv channel simply reflects the abyss of our moral degradation. Gentlemen should not only set an example of scientific excellence but also of high moral standards: the two trade marks of superior nations.
Now whatever I heard Mr. Agha Waqar saying or claiming and the explanation for that claims he presents all makes sense. A word of caution though Mr. Waqar is very poor in explaining the whole phenomenon especially the technical terms that he uses such as resonance, free energy, electrolysis etc but I being in the same field do understand the validity of these comments. Let us not forget that its not him alone who invented the system but he was assisted by few other people who do not appear on such tv talk shows. I am sure they know much more about these technicalities than Agha Waqar.
OK to the point now. Breaking water into hydrogen and oxygen by electrolysis is an age old science. Use of hydrogen as fuel is also known. It is the hydrogen in the fossil fuel (petrol, diesel and natural gas) which burns and produces energy. The only problem with the technique has been that energy required for splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen has so far been always more than the energy acheived from burning hydrgoen. There have been and continue to be efforts to carry out electrolysis in a way that energy required for it is less than the energy produced from combustion of hydrgoen. Resonance is a strange phenomenon in electrical and electronics science. It does magical things, for which there are no logical explanations. So what the scientist do is to formulate laws by observing these characteristics without explaining why it happens. One thing that resonance does in passive electronic component such as a coil is to magnify the voltage thousands of time. If in some way that could be used to split water into its constituent components then the trick is done for generating hydrogen economy. This has not so far been acheived by scientists in open domains. In military establishments, there are reports, it has been acheived long ago. If someone like Agha Waqar somehow acheives that result then there is no problem with the entire system. And for the suedo-scientists like the three names mentioned above it seems to be breaking laws of thermodynamics. It actually does not. Ask them if they have acheived any scientific breakthrough with their 40 plus years of scientific knowledge. The answer will put them to shame. They are just blind followers of the laws of physics developed by real scientists centuries ago. Their service to science and to this nation is to produce more animals who are not allowed to question these laws but follow them blindly. So they are not only scientifically but also morally bankrupt. A product of cramming “Rattaism” and “booty” culture.
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phpfast says:
August 31, 2012 at 6:12 am
Dear Mr. “Scientist”,
Thank you very much for your very great and nicely written scientific response to this matter!
Your observation, approach and analysis is excellent and very logical, and I would like to highly appreciate it.
Just because Agha Waqar is a poor man he is not educated in expensive so called institutes, he is unfortunately not able to explain his ideas in good English or good Urdu, he may also not be able to use a lot of technical terminology BUT it does not mean that he is not an engineer or he can not invent a new device in this world, the history is full of such inventions even Thomas Edison who had invented more than 200 things and more than 1000 patents are there in his name was not even educated in a middle school, so Hudhud bhoy and Ata ur rehman like fake scientists are trying to make a joke of Agha Waqar and humiliating him so nobody in Pakistan every try to think out of box.
I do not know that Agha’s claim is true or not as this need to be verified, but I would suggest to hang these ata ur rehman and hudhud like stupid and nonsense fake and fraud “scientists” who have been continuously stealing the resources of this poor nation with their “charb zabani”
You are right they are in fact producing “animals” like their own-selves, Copy and Paste or Ratta an Vomit type fake “scientists”
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=…
agreed on the resonance part that it amplifies the voltage, but what about the current??? Doesnt it drop down??? YES it does!!!! You know why??? JUST TO KEEP THE POWER EQUAL!!!! which means 1st law still holds!!!
So, think critically about things before commenting…….."B.Tech" Scientists!!!! ROFL
AOA!……o bahi itni jhik jhik kiss batt ki ha…… since since laga rakha ha…..since koi asmani sahifa ha kia ….jo gahlt nahi ho sakta…… sab bakwwas laga rakhi hai….. aik banda khe raha ha….. k me chala k dekhta hn…… tum sedha sedha test drive lo…… gahlt ha tu saly ko jail me daloo…….. thek he tu he is our HERO….:) ……
Ajeeb bakwas laga rakhi ha…..sincee me nahi piossibel since me nahi possbel. since insano k he bani hoi ha……badal sakti hai…..rules change ho sakty hain….. itni se batt samjh nahi aa rahi……??????
wahan amerka me bethy bol rahyu hain…..this is bull shit ……o bahi yahan aaoo…… chala k dekho..pora din chaloo…… pora week chalao…… gahlt ha tu lataka do AGAHA ko…… thek ha tu ……man lo…….
No one is denying the theory or laws of Physics. But his invention hasn’t been tested and once you test it – it should clear doubts or reveal if there is a hidden something behind the scene but until then stop teaching us Physics.
It is good that Agha didn’t fly a machine through water because our scientists were confused for a long time even at Bumblee bee – according to scientists, bumble bee is doing a FRAUD (should be in jail – if you would ask our scientists) and it can’t fly according to the rules of aerodynamic laws.
AERODYNAMIC LAWS OF FLYING: Bumblebee cannot fly. Its body weight is not the right proportion to its wingspan. But Bumblee bee doesn’t know about this law so bee flies anyway.” Laws of aerodynamic were understood fully in recent years with the help of sophisticated computer technology which would help a lot in future flying machines and workout complex designs and technologies.
My point of explaining aerodynamic laws of flying is that it was not flawless and there is no last word in science. I hope you got my point guys.
Lets face it – scientists are angry because it goes against their theory/laws. So, they are forcing their theory to Agha but only way they could settle this issue is to examine it PRACTICALLY. Who knows – maybe he accidentally invented something. But no a mechanic in western world could invent accidentally but not Pakistani…
Readers, please look at the rebuttals to this idiot's Bumble Bee theories below. He is one persistent pain in the arse, master of cut and paste!
To break out water into hydrogen & oxygen gases with a very little electric energy is not a big deal. Its very easy, even tab water(not demineraled water) will also break down without the resonence technique. only 0.685 Watt electric energy is sufficent. Every thing is possible in this universe. Today in France one hybird car can run free of cost if you reach the speed limit of 50KM/H. We also modified the solar panels, and now produce the electricity 24/24H and 7/7 days.
The Brains of so called scientists are unable to see behind the wall. Because they enven not able think differently, they are lakeer dai fakeers.
I agree. I have personally seen a whole herd of camels running at full speed on Engineer Waqar's water kit in Abu Dhabi. I have also noticed that sometimes, when I go to Clifton beach in Karachi, I see whales dancing on land with turtles. But then I have to take another pill the psychiatrist has prescribed and suddenly the world statrt to look so boring again!
I have been following this hot debate on water car from the beginning. I am myself a scientist. More on that later.
Let us first talk about the behaviour of Pervaiz Hoodby, Shaukat Hameed and Atta ur Rahman. Their use of abusive, threatening and dismissive language not only speak of their shallow knowledge of science but of their low moral character as well. If they want to prove their superior scientific knowledge than they should quietly get togather with Agha Waqar, examine his claim and kit, find out element of fraud in it and then report to the police for a court proceeding against him. They should do this in the name of science, high moral ground and patriotism. Their behaviour on most viewed tv channel simply reflects the abyss of our moral degradation. Gentlemen should not only set an example of scientific excellence but also of high moral standards: the two trade marks of superior nations.
Now whatever I heard Mr. Agha Waqar saying or claiming and the explanation for that claims he presents all makes sense. A word of caution though Mr. Waqar is very poor in explaining the whole phenomenon especially the technical terms that he uses such as resonance, free energy, electrolysis etc but I being in the same field do understand the validity of these comments. Let us not forget that its not him alone who invented the system but he was assisted by few other people who do not appear on such tv talk shows. I am sure they know much more about these technicalities than Agha Waqar.
OK to the point now. Breaking water into hydrogen and oxygen by electrolysis is an age old science. Use of hydrogen as fuel is also known. It is the hydrogen in the fossil fuel (petrol, diesel and natural gas) which burns and produces energy. The only problem with the technique has been that energy required for splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen has so far been always more than the energy acheived from burning hydrgoen. There have been and continue to be efforts to carry out electrolysis in a way that energy required for it is less than the energy produced from combustion of hydrgoen. Resonance is a strange phenomenon in electrical and electronics science. It does magical things, for which there are no logical explanations. So what the scientist do is to formulate laws by observing these characteristics without explaining why it happens. One thing that resonance does in passive electronic component such as a coil is to magnify the voltage thousands of time. If in some way that could be used to split water into its constituent components then the trick is done for generating hydrogen economy. This has not so far been acheived by scientists in open domains. In military establishments, there are reports, it has been acheived long ago. If someone like Agha Waqar somehow acheives that result then there is no problem with the entire system. And for the suedo-scientists like the three names mentioned above it seems to be breaking laws of thermodynamics. It actually does not. Ask them if they have acheived any scientific breakthrough with their 40 plus years of scientific knowledge. The answer will put them to shame. They are just blind followers of the laws of physics developed by real scientists centuries ago. Their service to science and to this nation is to produce more animals who are not allowed to question these laws but follow them blindly. So they are not only scientifically but also morally bankrupt. A product of cramming "Rattaism" and "booty" culture.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=178581506…
Dear Mr. "Scientist",
Thank you very much for your very great and nicely written scientific response to this matter!
Your observation, approach and analysis is excellent and very logical, and I would like to highly appreciate it.
Just because Agha Waqar is a poor man he is not educated in expensive so called institutes, he is unfortunately not able to explain his ideas in good English or good Urdu, he may also not be able to use a lot of technical terminology BUT it does not mean that he is not an engineer or he can not invent a new device in this world, the history is full of such inventions even Thomas Edison who had invented more than 200 things and more than 1000 patents are there in his name was not even educated in a middle school, so Hudhud bhoy and Ata ur rehman like fake scientists are trying to make a joke of Agha Waqar and humiliating him so nobody in Pakistan every try to think out of box.
I do not know that Agha's claim is true or not as this need to be verified, but I would suggest to hang these ata ur rehman and hudhud like stupid and nonsense fake and fraud "scientists" who have been continuously stealing the resources of this poor nation with their "charb zabani"
You are right they are in fact producing "animals" like their own-selves, Copy and Paste or Ratta an Vomit type fake "scientists"
"If in some way that could be used to split water into its constituent components then the trick is done for generating hydrogen economy." Wonderful quote from your email above. Now can you tell me what proof you have that the "Engineer" has found the way? If you are a scientist, you should know that science requires facts that can be repeated in exactly the same environment over and over again to be accepted. Have you personally analyzed the water kit? By the way, what field of science are you related to?
Guyz here is the secret that is suppressed and is only utilized secretly in the manner of war. Agha waqar has done it, most of the so called scientists are illetrate about the real science of resonance
http://syzygyastro.hubpages.com/hub/Nikola-Tesla-…
Nikola Tesla is the man responsible for laying down much of what we have become familiar with in the 20th and 21st centuries. He laid down a lot more as well, but most of this is suppressed. Some of the suppressed technology is being used in secret, in the manner of war instead of peace. We don not have much of what he developed in common use because of the interference of profiteering and power tycoons who did not want to see their source of income disappear
BROTHERS.
i have read almost every comment, but lets be togather in one common cause, that may allah give agha waqar success for the sake of our nation, regardless of what we think and what the lawa of phsc says and all the bloddy other laws which are dividing us. and also we should appriciate hamid meer how has the courage to bring all this in the media. i also want hamid to continue keeping an eye on the progress of agha waqar.
Now this is what i call a true patriot,,,,,
uhammad Zafarullah Khan
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Muhammad Zafarullah Khan
Minister of Foreign Affairs
In office
27 December 1947 – 24 October 1954
Prime Minister Liaquat Ali Khan
Khawaja Nazimuddin
Muhammad Ali Bogra
Preceded by Liaquat Ali Khan
Succeeded by Muhammad Ali Bogra
Personal details
Born 6 February 1893
Daska, British Raj
(now Pakistan)
Died 1 September 1985 (aged 92)
Lahore, Pakistan
Political party All-India Muslim League (Before 1947)
Muslim League (1947–1958)
Alma mater Government College University, Lahore
King's College, London
Chaudhry Sir Muhammad Zafarullah Khan, KCSI (February 6, 1893 – September 1, 1985) was a Pakistani politician, diplomat, international jurist, and scholar of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, known for drafting the Pakistan Resolution,[1] first foreign minister of Pakistan, for his representation of Pakistan at the United Nations, and serving as a judge at the International Court of Justice in The Hague.
The son of the leading attorney of his native city Daska, Zafarullah Khan studied at Government College, Lahore and received his LL.B. from King's College London, in 1914. He practiced law in Sialkot and Lahore, became a member of the Punjab Legislative Council in 1926, and was a delegate in 1930, 1931, and 1932 to the Round Table Conferences on Indian reforms in London, England. In 1931–1932 he was president of the Muslim League, and he sat on the British Viceroy's Executive Council as its Muslim member from 1935 to 1941. He led the Indian delegation to the League of Nations in 1939, and from 1941 to 1947 he served as a judge of the Federal Court of India.
Prior to the partition of India in 1947, Zafarullah Khan drafted the Pakistan Resolution and presented the Muslim League's view of the future boundaries of Pakistan to Sir Cyril Radcliffe, the man designated to decide the boundaries between India and Pakistan. Upon the independence of Pakistan, Zafarullah Khan became the new country's minister of foreign affairs and served concurrently as leader of Pakistan's delegation to the United Nations (1947–1954). From 1954 to 1961, he served as a member of the International Court of Justice at The Hague.[2] He again represented Pakistan at the United Nations (1961–1964) and served as president of the UN General Assembly in 1962 to 1963. Returning to the International Court of Justice in 1964, he served as the court's president from 1970 to 1973.[3]
Contents
1 Career
2 Religion
3 Death
4 Bibliography
4.1 Books
4.2 Speeches
5 References
6 External links
Career
Muhammad Zafrulla Khan was elected a member of the Punjab Legislative Council in 1926 and presided at the Delhi Meeting of the All-India Muslim League in 1931, where he advocated the cause of the Indian Muslims through his presidential address. He participated in the Round Table Conferences held from 1930 to 1932 and became the Minister of Railways in May, 1935. In 1939, he represented India in the League of Nations. He was appointed the Agent General of India in China in 1942 and represented India as the Indian Government's nominee in the Commonwealth Relations Conference in 1945, where he spoke India's cause for freedom.
From 1935 to 1941, he was member of the Executive Council of the Viceroy of India. During this period, Viceroy Lord Linlithgow, told the leaders of the Muslim League that the Government of Great Britain intended to divide India in three dominions: one for the Hindus, Muslims, and Rulers of Princely States. Within the Muslim League Working Committee, various sub-committees were established, numerous proposals were presented with the final decision resting with the British. However, when the British saw that their objectives could not be met, they unilaterally rejected all proposals submitted by the Muslims. At that point, Zafarullah Khan was asked to submit a proposal on the partition of India. On that subject, the Viceroy wrote the Secretary of State for India:
Upon my instruction Zafarullah wrote a memorandum on the subject. Two Dominion States. I have already sent it to your attention. I have also asked him for further clarification, which, he says, is forthcoming. He is anxious, however, that no one should find out that he has prepared this plan. He has, however, given me the right to do with it what I like, including sending a copy to you. Copies have been passed on to Jinnah, and, I think, to Sir Akbar Hydari. While he, Zafarullah, cannot admit its authorship, his document has been prepared for adoption by the Muslim League with a view to giving it the fullest publicity.[1]
— Lord Linlithgow, April 12, 1940
The Viceroy further explained that since Zafarullah Khan was a member of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, he had to be cautious. Orthodox Muslims would become irritated if they found that this proposal was prepared by an Ahmadi. The Viceroy said that Muhammad Ali Jinnah had been given a copy to gain acceptance from the Muslim League and publicize its contents. Akbar Hydari was given a copy because he was responsible for fund raising. Twelve days after it had been proposed, the Muslim League adopted the proposal at the Lahore Conference, calling it the Pakistan Resolution.[1]
In September 1941, Zafarullah Khan was appointed Judge of the Federal Court of India which he held until June 1947. At the request of Muhammad Ali Jinnah, he represented the Muslim League in July 1947 before the Radcliffe Boundary Commission and presented the case of the Muslims in a highly commendable manner. Zafrullah Khan advised the Nawab of Junagadh that if he decided to join his state with Pakistan, it would be both moral and legal. The Nawab then proceeded to announce his decision.[4]
In October 1947, Zafrullah represented Pakistan in United Nations General Assembly as the head of the Pakistan delegation and advocated the position of the Muslim world on the Palestinian issue. That year, he was appointed as Pakistan's 1st Foreign Minister, a post he held for 7 years. Between 1948 and 1954, he also represented Pakistan at the United Nations Security Council and where he advocated the case of liberation of the occupied Kashmir, Libya, Northern Ireland, Eritrea, Somalia, Sudan, Tunisia, Morocco, and Indonesia.
As Foreign Minister, he represented Pakistan at the Manila Treaty Conference in September 1954. Support for the Manila Pact in Pakistan was divided, with the West Pakistan dominated army and a handful of leaders in favor of it, while most elected members of the Constituent Assembly from West Pakistan and all of the Assembly members from East Pakistan were opposed to it. Zafarullah signed the Manila Pact, committing Pakistan's accession to the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization (SEATO). In 1953 bloody Lahore riots by the religious extremists calling for Zafrullah Khan's expulsion due to his adherence to Ahmadiyya Muslim faith occurred. This caused the first martial law in the history of Pakistan. Details are recorded in the Munir Commission Report.[5] The pressure from religious extremists finally led to Zafrullah's resignation from the post of the Foreign Minister in October 1954.
In 1954, he became a Judge of the International Court of Justice in The Hague, a position he held until 1961. He became the Vice President of the International Court of Justice from 1958 to 1961. Between 1961 and 1964, he was Pakistan's Permanent Representative at the UN while at the same time, became President of the UN General Assembly in 1962 for 2 years.
Religion
As an active member of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, Zafarullah Khan held the office of president of the Lahore, Pakistan branch of the community from 1919 to 1935. He served as Secretary to Khalifatul Masih II, the second successor of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, at Majlis-e-Shura for the first time in 1924, continuing for seventeen more sessions. In addition, he was a member of the delegation which represented the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community at the All Parties Conference held in 1924. In 1927, he acted successfully as representative counsel for the Muslims of the Punjab in the contempt of court case against the Muslim Outlook.
As Pakistan's first Foreign Minister, Zafarullah Khan addressed the Constituent Assembly of Pakistan in the days leading up to passing of the Objectives Resolution. The Objectives Resolution, which combined features of both Western and Islamic democracy, is one of the most important documents in the constitutional history of Pakistan. It was designed to provide equal rights for all citizens of Pakistan, regardless of race, religion or background. Zafarullah Khan was quoted saying:
It is a matter of great sorrow that, mainly through mistaken notions of zeal, the Muslims have during the period of decline earned for themselves an unenviable reputation for intolerance. But that is not the fault of Islam. Islam has from the beginning proclaimed and inculcated the widest tolerance. For instance, so far as freedom of conscience is concerned the Quran says "There shall be no compulsion" of faith…[6]
Chaudry Sahib, Please enough is enough, aap shyed apni tayeen SAWAB kama rehey hein, Magar her baat kerney ka koi Lamha koi Waqt koi Tareeqa hota hei.
Aap iss tarah apney maslaq ki Tableeg nahi ker rahey, aor yahan koi majhabi behass bhi nahi ho rahi, aap khamuha mein apni R
Chaudry Sahib, Please enough is enough, aap shyed apni tayeen SAWAB kama rehey hein, Magar her baat kerney ka koi Lamha koi Waqt koi Tareeqa hota hei.
Aap iss tarah apney maslaq ki Tableeg nahi ker rahey, aor yahan koi majhabi behass bhi nahi ho rahi, aap kha'mauha mein apni besuri Ragni alaap rahey hein.
Aap her talk show ki post per apna roona liye hazar ho jatey hein, ye aik tarah se sam'a kharashi wali baat ho jati hei.
Please itni zada Apni Tableegi bombardment na kerein, please relax and concentrate and comment on the issue under discussion ONLY. Thanks.
I am sorry if hurt your feelings.
sab se bara parha likha jaahil Hamid Meer khud he…lanat he iss kisam k journalism pe….sab scentists iss agha waqar ka mazzak ura rahe hain and saying that he's a bloody fraud…and its not hard to conclude that from the way he talks,he knows shit about physics…all the world is making fun of us due to this stupid media portraying Agha Waqar as a National Hero..oopar se Hamid Meer chawwal ko iski security ki fikar ho rahi he…lanat aise media pe
you have proved that you are really wicked…….i dont like your comments WICKED
Please read that news you will find the answer about this problem in five minutes. I think we can find and know what is science in world doing??
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12597811
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jul/31/pri…
بے حد پیارے دوستوں
اسلام وعلیکم
آج میں اپنےعزیز حاضرین و ناظرین ، بہن بھایئوں سے 4 عدد گزارشات کرنا چاہتا ہوں ، اگر پسند آئیں تو رسپانس ضرور دینا اور اگرمزید اصلاح کی ضرورت ہو تو برائے مہربانی حکم دینا.
زم ٹی وی کی یہ ویب سائیڈ بہت زیاده مقبول عام حاصل کر چکی ہے ، ہمارے بیرون ملک پاکستانیوں میں تویہ بےحد پسندکی جاتی ہے، اس میں بڑا حصہ آپ کی طرف سےپوسٹ کرده مختلف اظہار خیالات پرمبنی تحریریں شامل ہیں . اب آتے ہیں گزارشتوں پر.
1 – آپکی تحریر مختصر اور جامع الفاظ پر منحصر ہونی چاہیے ، تا کے تحریر کے مطالعہ کے بعد مزید اظہار خیال ممکن ہوسکے .
2 – کاپی پیسٹ توبلکل نہیں ہونا چاہے ، تاکہ زیاده سے زیاده کمنٹس پڑھے جا سکیں .
3 – آپ کی سیاسی وابستگی دلیل کا پہلو رکھتی ہو نہ کہ یہ. صفحہ میدان جنگ نظر آے. یعنی آپ کااظہار پروگرام پر ہونہ کے کسی دوسری سیاسی جماعت پر بےجا تنقید اورالزام تراشی – اسکےلئے ہمارے معزز قائدین ہی کافی ہیں.
4 – کمنٹس میں کچھ افراداپنا نام بدل کربھارت سےبھی دراندازی فرماتے ہیں، برائےکرم ان کی نشاندہی کریں اور ممکن ہو تو دو چار جوتے لگانے سے گریز نہ کریں.
آپ کو اورآپ کےکمنٹس کوبےحد پسندکرنے والا آپ کا بھائی
محمّد بشیر چودھری
ایتھنز ، یونان
Mr.Hamid Mir, you are responsible for making the whole nation fool and keeping them in chaos. Media is playing a very negative role in certain issues, and they want to prove that they are controlling the people. But remember Hamid Mir sahab, history will not for give you. All eminent engineers and scientists have proved that this guy Agha Waqar is a fraud, but still you are promoting him. Why ? Who the hell you are ? In your first show you were showing that you are the pioneer to discover Agha Waqar, but when Talat did a show and also Kamran Khan and proved that Waqar is a fraud…after that you are doing various shows to compensate your image, but its too late. Come on Hamid Mir sahab and don't try to expert of every thing. This is fraud and only fraud !!!
Hamid meer ko bata do k jab us ne first program kiya tha agha waqar ka us ne tyre ki tube mein pehle se hi hydrogen save ki hoi thi watch the video phir kyoon itni jahalat dikha rahe hein agha waqar frud hai
Jahalaaaat kiii intehaa kardii hai iss Waqar Agha nay…. what a bullshit… even can't pronounce the Names of scientist and claim water energy…. what bullshit bakwaasss…
kia saray pagul akhathay ho gaye hain yeh sub doctor jo is kay kam ko dakhain aur faisala dain fazool bhathay bahis ke rahay hain kia physics kay kanoon allah nauy banae hain jo change nahin ho saktay bhai ager aik banda dawa ke raha hai tu tu is ko hosalay say dekhana chahiy na k disheart kerain.thanks
I think .. I Think, ,, I think ,,
ye sab is waja sy unnessary crtiism kr rhy
ye sab kisi na ksii tareeky sy Water Kit banany ki technique or formula Ugalwana chah rhy hy
or pir baad my thora bot upgrdation kr k apny naam sy Isay market my lounge kr dy gy
Khuda ko maano
itni door bait kr ap isy jutla rhy ho ??Koi khandani dushmanee hy to bata dy SCINTIST SAHAIBAAN ??
EDISON ny ak Bulb banany k liyee kitny exoperimnt kiyee ty ?? lakin wos ure ta k Bany ga
jab k poori dunya agaisnt tee . .
zaruree nhi wo LAWS OF PHYSICS jo ap jaisy sciintist ny he discover kiyee hy
wo 100% true ho . . .
Kuch b possible hy
Allah ki zaat k nazdeek or Ho skta Allah ki taraf sy ye hamary liyee ak JACKPOT saabit ho ??
sochy
ye sab MAFIA'ss q is k agaisnt hy ??
Play the lottery if you want a jackpot. Idiot!
بھئی بہت خوب ہمارے دانشوروں کا. بجانے اس کے کہ کھیر کو کھا کر حتمی فیصلہ کر دیتے اس بحث میں لگے ہوے ہیں کہ کھیر سیدھی ہے یا ٹیڑھی. حامد میر صاحب جانچ پڑتال کے بعد اس گاڑی کو خالی مشک یعنی ایمپٹی ٹینک اسلام آباد سے لاہور کا چکر تو لگا کر لائیے. دودھ کا دودھ اورپانی کا پانی ہو جاۓ گا.
SUEKHAN.
i am 100% With you sir…..hamid ko chaheyey ki eak bar ess ki garey ka sath lahore ka chuker lagey…………..sab kuch pata lag gea ga.
بھئی بہت خوب ہمارے دانشوروں کا. بجانے اس کے کہ کھیر کو کھا کر حتمی فیصلہ کرتے اس بحث میں لگے ہوے ہیں کہ کھیر سیدھی ہے یا ٹیڑھی. حامد میر صاحب جانچ پڑتال کے بعد اس گاڑی کو اسلام آباد سے لاہور کا چکر تو لگا کر لائیے. دودھ کا دودھ اورپانی کا پانی ہو جاۓ گا.
If any body is interested to know the facts about the Agha Waqar's invention, then he / she should first know about the Resonance phenomenon. Here is the research paper on resonance phenomenon which is explaining why scientists deliberately neglected the Resonance phenomenon to save the laws of Thermodynamics, although resonance is the most efficient and important phenomenon: http://www.einsteinshiddenvariables.com/uploads/TheFalla...
Okay, I read the enire article. Now, tell me how it relates to the water kit? What is the entropy of his system and how much is power is being used for Work versus Heat? Can you put some numbers together? What is the resonant frequency of water molecule? How can a 12 Volt battery produce an exactly matching electrical wave? If the wave size is controlled through a capacitor, what is the capcitance of this capacitor? What you have done so far is thrown a hastily put together history of the Resonanace phenomen but not any basis for how it relates to the water kit. We need a thorough description of the system, the magnitude of the variables involved and the equation which ties them together in the water kit to have a scientific discussion. Otherwise, it will be all platitudes about nothing. And please, please son't tell me it is now a state secret.
i need Agha waqar's number….i want to call him personally and want to ask him some questions….can anyone give me his number….it'll be really appreciated…plz if anyone have…send me on my e-mail..
Sajidmumtazraza@hotmail.com
Here is his number: 1-800-BIG-IDIOT
@ wakeup, we are not discussing here about what is the construction of the kit, we are talking about the principle on which this kit is made. It is very clear that the kit made on resonance principle is genuine and scientifically ok and opposing it blindly is not good. Atleast we must try to understand it and must not insult the person due to our own ignorance.
@ wakeup, how we can get more output from less energy in resonance condition is explained here: http:/144.206.159.178/ft/CONF/16435650/16435660.pdf
Look, you are not providing any new information. This article regurgitates most of the same information in the previous article and is also written by some one at the same institution. There is nothing here that suggests that enough energy can be produced through resonance to break enough water molecules to create enough hydrogen to create big enough combustion to propel the car. And what about the entropy value of the engine? This is crucial to know as it determines how much energy is being converted to Work (moving the car forward) and how much is being wasted as heat. Just because you have dug out a theory does not mean it is valid for the water kit. For example, would you agree that if 10 people can build a house in one month, 20 should be able to do it in 15 days, 40 in about 7 days, 80 in about 3 days, 160 in about 1 day, 320 in half a day, and 640 in a few hours? It sounds perfectly logical but can't be done in reality–after a certain number, all workers will end up obstructing each other as they try to work! Please, please, please, think scientifically, not emotionally!
@wakeup, I am extremely sorry to say that you are not reading the paper and is only saying that I have read the paper completely. Answers to your all questions are given in the paper but you are just ignoring everything. About entropy of the system you are asking during resonance, Max Plank has been quoted in the paper and Max Plank is saying that "Entropy depends on disorder and this disorder, according to my [Planck’s] electromagnetic theory of radiation … depends on the irregularity with which it constantly changes its amplitude and phase …If amplitude and phase both remained absolutely constant, which means completely homogeneous vibrations, no entropy could exist and the vibrational energy would have to be completely free to be converted into work.”
You should know that Amplitude and Phase remains constant in Resonance condition only.
Now please do not ask who is Max Plank.
yeah i agree on "Zero" entropy change…..although its only in an IDEAL situation but lets agree on it for the sake of argument!!!
Now, when entropy is constant…….all the energy that we in the form of electricity is utilized in breaking the bonds and when thats done, the hydrogen released will oxidize again to give water and Heat Energy, which will be utilized to run the car!!!
Since, entropy is constant in resonating circuits(as you said) it wont be constant in mechanical systems…….now the energy that we got in the form of heat in the piston cylinder assembly would be converted to mechanical work and transmitted to tires through transmission shaft………now in this process a huge amount of energy would be lost……now the energy that was produced in the engine is divided into 3 parts…….1) Brake Power 2) Frictional Power(losses) 3) Power available to alternator to keep the process of electrolysis going!!!
So, lets say 1000 joules of energy was available in start to the resonating circuit and it converted it perfectly and 1000 joules is produced again with the oxidation of hydrogen…….now that 1000 joules would be divided into brake power and alternator energy(assuming system is ideal and we encounter no frictional losses) lets say tires need only 300 joules to run…….so now we will have 700 joules of energy available to our resonating circuit for the next cycle………means in the third cycle we will have 400 joules available to circuit and then 100 and then -200!!!! so the system is gonna run out of the energy!!!!
I hope you have heard of 1st law!!! lol
Listen, I am not going to waste any more time with you. When I said I read all the articles I had meant I had read all the articles you had linked to your email and posed the questions. You keep cutting and pasting from the articles to prove that Agha has created a kit that harnesses resonance to magnify energy–just because it is written in the document does not mean he has done it. Where is the proof? And if you look at the equations (assuming you know basic math), you can see that the denominator is composed of the difference between the frequecies of the energy wave and the particle on which it is incident. If this is zero, which is what you are implying, then you get infinite energy (anything divided be zero is infinity, or are you now going to question that as well?). In this case, Agha can run his car on just a drop of water forever!
I do know the scientist, Max Planck, who developed theory of dual nature of light–his last name has a C in it. So regretably, I will have to ask you: who is Max Plank? A cut and paste research invention on your part? You are not a scientist, you are simply a drama queen.
Most of the persons here opposing Agha Waqar basically do not know the Resonance Phenomenon and must not have seen the Resonance in any experiment otherwise they must not have talked against Agha Waqar. Resonance is not a part of thermodynamics but this is a natural phenomenon and Allah has created for the man to use it. In resonance condition, output increases much much more than the input.
You can see some experiments of resonance below:
A 1000W bulb can full glow from just 100W (20V, 5A) power supply in resonance condition (means our input is just 100W and we get 1000W output): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYgFuUl9_Vs
In resonance condition, oscillation of a mass increases at least 6 times than the normal oscillation in the thermodynamic (non-resonance) condition): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZNnwQ8HJHU
A glass can break only in a resonance condition and not in the thermodynamics condition although the input energy is same: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDnNmLkQ3Bc
Also, the great Scientist Max Karl Planck, in 1900, hypothesized that if resonant energy was present in a system, the resonant energy would be “free to be converted into work”.
Read all this in Research Paper on The Resonance Factor: 144.206.159.178/ft/CONF/16435650/16435660.pdf
"Aur Tum Apne Rab Ki Kon Kon Si Naimaton Ko Jhutlao Ge"
Look, you are not providing any new information. This article regurgitates most of the same information in the previous article and is also written by some one at the same institution. There is nothing here that suggests that enough energy can be produced through resonance to break enough water molecules to create enough hydrogen to create big enough combustion to propel the car. And what about the entropy value of the engine? This is crucial to know as it determines how much energy is being converted to Work (moving the car forward) and how much is being wasted as heat. Just because you have dug out a theory does not mean it is valid for the water kit. For example, would you agree that if 10 people can build a house in one month, 20 should be able to do it in 15 days, 40 in about 7 days, 80 in about 3 days, 160 in about 1 day, 320 in half a day, and 640 in a few hours? It sounds perfectly logical but can’t be done in reality–after a certain number, all workers will end up obstructing each other as they try to work! Please, please, please, think scientifically, not emotionally. Thanks
@wakeup, I am extremely sorry to say that you are not reading the paper and is only saying that I have read the paper completely. Answers to your all questions are given in the paper but you are just ignoring everything. About entropy of the system you are asking during resonance, Max Planck has been quoted in the paper and Max Plank is saying that “Entropy depends on disorder and this disorder, according to my [Planck’s] electromagnetic theory of radiation … depends on the irregularity with which it constantly changes its amplitude and phase …If amplitude and phase both remained absolutely constant, which means completely homogeneous vibrations, no entropy could exist and the vibrational energy would have to be completely free to be converted into work.”
You should know that Amplitude and Phase remains constant in Resonance condition only.
Now please do not ask who is Max Planck.
Listen, I am not going to waste any more time with you. When I said I read all the articles I had meant I had read all the articles you had linked to your email and posed the questions. You keep cutting and pasting from the articles to prove that Agha has created a kit that harnesses resonance to magnify energy–just because it is written in the document does not mean he has done it. Where is the proof? And if you look at the equations (assuming you know basic math), you can see that the denominator is composed of the difference between the frequecies of the energy wave and the particle on which it is incident. If this is zero, which is what you are implying, then you get infinite energy (anything divided be zero is infinity, or are you now going to question that as well?). In this case, Agha can run his car on just a drop of water forever!
I do know the scientist, Max Planck, who developed theory of dual nature of light–his last name has a C in it. So regretably, I will have to ask you: who is Max Plank? A cut and paste research invention on your part? You are not a scientist, you are simply a drama queen!
I noticed that I taught you something: the correct name of the actual scientist! And you deviously fixed the name in your email and re-posted it without acknowledging your error. If this is the ethical basis of your scholarly pursuits, your screen name "Agha Waqar" is ideally suited to you! It takes one crook to defend another.
I am thoroughly disgusted by this useless git Hoodbhoy. Talking such non-sense… Jail mae daal do… What the hell is he to say such bad words to the person who wants to benefit this poor nation…? At least listen to the Resonance theory he is referring to! Agha Waqar has completely answered his concern of "how will he provide the current to begin electrolysis, economically" but both the RESPECTABLE and SENSIBLE personalities are not at all ready to accept the quite valid reasoning of Resonance Theory (of multiplying the power generated)…..
Is this behavior scientific at all?
Naadia, please enlighten us and explain the Resonance Theory. Is this what the small kid used in the movie 3 Idiots? We want a definition, formulas, and a theorem that ends with QED, not BS!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis
just read this article….if u know science..u'll know the process….let see what happen at the end…whether Waqar Agha wins or these doctors….
I suggest that Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy must watch the movie "3 Idiots". The poor guy's little mind will be boggled down to see Rancho (Amir Khan)'s 8-10 year old students shaving sheep to collect wool with the energy generated from just pedaling a bicycle.
Poor creature! Can't imagine things outside the boundary of the things that he was told by his teachers 50 years ago, so he simply can't digest this genius's revolutionary techniques described in so simple words. Rancho sy bhi us k teachers Energy ki bookish definition poochtay reh gaey aur wo kahan ka kahan nikal gaya.
Go ahead! Agha Waqar! You rock, bro! You are the pride of Pakistan. I dread the day when this genius, like numerous others, too, will flee from pakistan due to the disgusting and discouraging behavior of these so-called SCIENTIST and ENGINEERS and China or Japan or America will buy his technology to revolutionize their own industry and then we will be more than happy to Beg these nations afterwards to get the same technology at 100 times expensive rates.
Just notice the abusive language this Dr. Hoodbhoy is using like FRAUD and NIRI BAKWAS…
I am also a Quaidian and used to respect Dr. sahib a lot, but I'll have to think it over again on such serious non-scientific behavior……..
Every theory, even if it is absurd, wins a chance for debate at least. They are not ready to bestow even that little chance to this genius……..
Buahahahahaha….You are quoting a FICTION…A MOVIE…to disapprove a scientist. Here is one for you Dumbo the flying elephant disapproves the laws of aerodynamics ! Shut up all the scientist and tell me how Dumbo can fly
The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it the more it will contract.”
The water kit crowd will never listen to anything logical; they will keep bullshitting and when confronted with facts, will shed their thin layer of civility and turn into screaming Neaderthals, full of profanities!
No one is denying the theory or laws of Physics. But his invention hasn’t been tested and once you test it – it should clear doubts or reveal if there is a hidden something behind the scene but until then stop teaching us Physics.
It is good that Agha didn’t fly a machine through water because our scientists were confused for a long time even at Bumblee bee – according to scientists, bumble bee is doing a FRAUD (should be in jail – if you would ask our scientists) and it can’t fly according to the rules of aerodynamic laws.
AERODYNAMIC LAWS OF FLYING: Bumblebee cannot fly. Its body weight is not the right proportion to its wingspan. But Bumblee bee doesn’t know about this law so bee flies anyway.” Laws of aerodynamic were understood fully in recent years with the help of sophisticated computer technology which would help a lot in future flying machines and workout complex designs and technologies.
Lets face it – scientists are angry because it goes against their theory/laws. So, they are forcing their theory to Agha but only way they could settle this issue is to examine it PRACTICALLY. Who knows – maybe he accidentally invented something. But no a mechanic in western world could invent accidentally but not Pakistani..
Despite me pointing to you out earlier that the thing about Bumblebee is a MYTH, false and incorrect, you still posted it again, deceiving the readers.
Show your character that you can tell such blatant lies.
Kuch tou Khuda ka khouf kero !
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Oh you shit heads – I am so tired of you and your wakeup buddy.
All I was trying to say that laws of aerodynamic was not flawless and was only understood clearly – recently with the help of sophisticated computer equipment.
Man – I dealing with a bunch of idiots who would only surf the net and copy paste – first thing they get their hands on.
I am sure you would still not get it. Go surf and look for latest "research on aerodynamics of flying".
and what has aerodynamics of flying has to do with thermodynamics? Next you would say Black Matter thing is still not resolved so any shit head(including yourself) can come on national television and claim to break the basic laws of physics.
if one thing was true in one case doesn't necessarily means it'll be true for another completely different case.
As for you excuse of "Laws of aerodynamic was not flawless and was only understood clearly" for telling lies to the people here. Well shame on you, tell me why do you need to tell lies to support your argument?
As for your argument that he may have 'invented' something accidentally, well the theory of how his system works (according to him) is filled with scientific flaws, there is not even a need for testing. The age of an apple falling and gravity being discovered is long gone. Now complex laws of physics can not be disproved by a mere B.Tech who fail even to pronounce the basic terminologies of science correctly.
Only thing I can do for people like you is laugh, your puny uneducated brain can fall easily for Agha's crap, but in few months people like me would be proven true. I only hope on that day I could find you and tell you I told you so !!
The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it the more it will contract.”
The water kit crowd will never listen to anything logical; they will keep bullshitting and when confronted with facts, will shed their thin layer of civility and turn into screaming Neaderthals, full of profanities. God help us!
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmBhai agr aap scientist hyn to insaniyyat sy to na niklyn hood bai ko de bond kia jay to 100 jahil produce ho jyngy itni bd tamizi koi kanjer hi kr sakta hy jitni isny aur Attaurrehman ny ki aik sada c bat meri bhi sun lyn agr ye aadmi fraud hy to 2 mah ho gay kisi sainsdan ny isko practically nokout q ni kia simple: apna pani lykr aayn 20 ltr virgin gari layn Waqar sy apni mojoodgi me kit fit krwayn gari chalayn 20 ltr pani myn Waqar kitna carbide apky samny milay ga? 20 ltr pani consume kryn result qoum k samny rakhyn ye b sainsdan hyn aik aadmi itna bara challenge day raha hy aur hamary bary bary so called scientists usy pratically ghalat proove krny ki bajay ghilazat bukty hyn lakh X lakh X lakh X infinity bar lanat in parhy likhy jahilon per jo khud bhi Pakistan ko koi retun against there education ni day sakyxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
MashAllah, 'ghalazat' ko condemn kertay hoy apnay baray shaista zabaan istamal kee. issay kehtay hain kehna kuch or kerna kuch orr…'dougala-pun'
Laws of aerodynamic were understood fully only in recent years with the help of sophisticated computer technology which would help a lot in future flying machines and workout complex designs and technologies.
I hope it explains it you dick heads…
The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it the more it will contract.”
The water kit crowd will never listen to anything logical; they will keep bullshitting and when confronted with facts, will shed their thin layer of civility and turn into screaming Neaderthals, full of profanities. God help us!
I being an aerospace engineer am feeling ashamed to know that someone who doesnt even know What aerodynamics really is? is talking about the discovery of laws of aerodynamics!!! A BIG LOL
Well, it was Bernoulli wh is credited with the discovery of the basic laws of aero…….and do you know WHEN it all happened??? in "1738'…..and as far as my little knowledge is concerned COMPUTERS WERE NOT INVENTED THEN!!! LOL
I assume that you are talking about the CFD(Computational Fluid Dynamics) field….its related to the recent invention of super-computing!!! But what we do in CFD is just SOLVE the higher order non linear partial differential equations which have already been derived by scientists 2 or 3 centuries back!!! So, as far as your concern about the aero's laws is concerned its just a bullshit!!!
If you still have anything to say about aero or any other field related to it, I AM HERE TO ANSWER!!!
I dont know why these Scientist and Hamid Mir are wasting their and Nation's time on this idiot who don't even know definition of energy
He must not be jailed
He must not be discussed
He must not be funded
We should let him spare and ask him to develop whatever him claims
Pity on fellow Pakistanis where such a fraudulent idiot can gain such a media hype
I take my education from punjab university and finished my M.Sc(MAth) in 2005…and currently not woking in pakistan(Alhum du lillah)…i know pakistani so called Ph.D scholars…..they are good for nothing….just take their salaries and enjoy with their wifes this money and don't care about new inventions,…and make notes from books and copy them and remember them and give exams and if ur percentage is 60% …u are good student and if less than 60%…u r bad…
i m sure..this parvez hood didn't even open the engine of his car in his life….so how he would know how it works….just read the books and believe them like Quran….these people are destroying the meaning of science….
Electrolysis process is possible…but it may have complexities…but there is also solutions for that…may be this Agha Waqar overcome these problems through his water kit…we don't know what circuits he is using to step up the voltage….but it is possible…
But i really don't like the attitude of Parvez and other scientist…one is asking him the units of pressure and other is asking him definition of energy…my advise to them…plz grow up…don't think that science is for them only…now on internet u can get anything…even tutorials for making atomic bomb….
they are lazy scientist who are good for nothing and just criticizing and not taking him positively…when they know about this water kit…the same day they call him and must see his invention and make research on it…but they are in superiority complex….as science is their property…
You must be working in an Arab country, the lands of innovation! I recently saw a camel in Abu Dhabi running on Agha's water kit.
And Dr. Hoodbhoy is a scientist, not a car mechanic. He has got idiots like you to clean his car's spark plugs.
What sea of ignorance our nations youth is swimming in. So depressing! We will never catch up….
hahahahahahhahahaha…………..
u r supporting so called Dr. Parvaiz emotionally …
may be a mechanic better than him…at least he know how to fix his car….
just watch the video…he even don't know how to test the gas…he is just reading old theoretical books…and no practical….
I am also not in favor of Agha Waqar….i m just telling instead of talking with him like this…he should proof him wrong by doing experiments….
he should call him personally and then when he get proves…he have rights to criticise….but no..he just start calling him fraud…put him in jail…how rude he is….and also u r his follower (who believe in science as a religion)…also u are insulting me in above message….Brother change ur attitude…try to accept others in a calm way….
about me…i have worked with Russian Architects and Mechanical Engineers…and i know how they work and also know how our university professors work…i vist many countries….so instead of putting finger on me…make ur research good…
With scientific geniuses like you on board, no wonder the Soviet Union collapsed! Electrolysis was discovered at least two centuries ago. Ever heard the name of Farady? Why is it that in our country, every Tom, Dick and Harry is an expert on everything! Utterly embarrassing…
And don't ever call me your brother again, you Neanderthal!
ok! as u wish….Have u ever done something for Pakistan…..?
but i did…….So try to get the point…and no need to be emotional….
As i told u before…i have done my M.Sc(Mathematics) from Punjab university in 2005…and i was self taught student…and i have study all these subjects of science…Thermodynamics , Quantum Mechanics , Electro-Magnetism , Mathematica , Spline Theory , but to be honest in my university …all duffers are teaching these subjects just to pass the exams…just memories them and give exam and get 60% marks to teach other students and make more duffers….so i dicided to move from Pakistan and Alhum du lillah i moved and Insha Allah I'll come back to Pakistan to teach students in a different way…how should we think and not just follow books and believe them………..science is man made….in science we are just studying laws of nature…why these are happening…no one answer till yet….so increase ur knowledge…and be calm and come out from superiority complex and also accept…other people also have mind like u..may be better than u….
Please, I beg of you to stay where you are and keep teaching the dumb Arabs your jumbo jumbo. Have mercy on your motherland–don't ever think about teaching there. Al hamdullilah for his mercy that we now have one less idiot to deal with!
I dont understand why we debating on that, even no buddy is fully prepared to debate about the issue.
just take this person to the Laboratory and check it ur own self dont know why u confusing us. Hamid Mir just stop this kind of non sense shows, come direct to the point.
I am really surprised to hear big scientific who don't have time to prepare themselves before coming to any program, I know Aga shaib is not scientists but no body has done home work.
I know no body in this program has prepared before talking………………..Amazing
It is possible but have complexities.
Ali
Research Student, UK
Making such system is not easy task, there are lot of issues with this…………But I am surprised what is going on, no body speaks about logic…………..Amazing.
It is not big deal, I suggest Mr. Hamid Mir to invite the person from electro-chemistry and Mechanical Engineer, they will speak truth of everything. I can explain I am very busy, but please Hamid Mir Sahib, invite the person from Electrochemisty and Mechanical Engineering, what type of people you are inviting who know nothing and all these people are irrelevant.
So rather than spreading confusion, talk to people are who specialist in the filed.
Cheers,
Ali, UK
Hi guys , i totally agree with ali and shakeel down there, i really feel sorry for the scientist, their lack of knowledge to reply. I think scientist are not professionals and they dont know the basics of science, they are just earning money from their degree of science never done research….Please listen to very carefully….this is true we can use electrolysis to run car..i have seen this in Europe and china……..so please dont waste time on this with the stupid people..i have complete proof on this………….and i have seen the first car 10 year back and now in pakistan people are still debating on this ..look foolish……………tc best of luck…..call me hamind mir if you wanna know more on it………….thanks
You dont need any specialty in Electrochemistry or Mechanical engineering to realize this FRAUD!!!
All you need is a little knowledge of 1st law and 2nd law of thermodynamics!
1st law states that Energy of an isolated system remains conserved!!! So, lets discuss this one first! What "B. Tech" Agha Waqar is claiming to do is transforming the energy stored in the form of CHEMICAL BOND in water molecules into mechanical energy by SOME MEANS!!! Lets apply 1st law……when we pass electrical current through water(means we give energy to water through current) the molecules disintegrate into oxygen and hydrogen gases……..now "B. Tech" Agha Waqar is claiming to burn that hydrogen back again with the oxygen in the engine which would result in dissipation of the energy which would run the piston and hence the car!!!
Now, just think for a moment………wouldnt the energy which would be given off in disintegration be equal to the energy of formation(or combustion) of the water??? the answer is ABSOLUTELY YES!!! because our system is isolated and there isnt any other source of energy, so whatever energy is produced must balance out with the energy consumed!!! SO, WHERE IS THE SURPLUS ENERGY TO RUN THE CAR???
Now lets come to the 2nd law!!! It states that ENTROPY OF ANY SYSTEM ALWAYS INCREASES, means the change in entropy can never be less than zero!!!
So, the energy produced by the burning of hydrogen gas can NEVER be equal to the energy which reaches the tires!!! Moreover…the alternator in the car is run by the engine itself…..so the engine power must be divided into two parts:
Engine power= Power in tires(brake power) + Losses(frictional power) + Alternator power
So, the above equation clearly indicates that the engine is soon gonna run out of the hydrogen because alternator wouldnt be getting any energy to produce hydrogen so everything will JUST SHUT DOWN!!!
I really find it strange explaining such little things to a guy who claims that he is a RESEARCHER in UK!!! LOL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_wate…
Thank You.
But the ignorant idiots here would never learn, I suggest you don't waste your time
The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it the more it will contract.”
The water kit crowd will never listen to anything logical; they will keep bullshitting and when confronted with facts, will shed their thin layer of civility and turn into screaming Neaderthals, full of profanities. Pity our nation which produces such morons in this day and age.
Engineer Aga waqar is 100% right. according to my idea he is able to make this water kit. I agree with his method. This is possible to step-up voltage and frequency. In electronics circuit we are using high voltage and high frequency for different purpose.
Dr. Pervaiz Hodbhoy and Dr.shukat hameed only can give speech, they don’t have any experience. In sample word they are (lakeer ke faqeer)
Actually as these Dr. are none sense. They are not agree to accept an engineer idea. They feeling shame because an engineer can research batter than them .they are jellies by engr. waqar.
muhammad Shakeel
u can step up voltage its OK…..but you can not amplify current….
even though i am an aerospace engineer and dont know much about the electrical circuits even then i know that in transformers POWER REMAINS constant in secondary and primary coils……if you are from electrical background then you must have come across this equation of power
P=IV
Even a kid from primary school can make out what this statement implies…….if you are stepping up the voltage, current will decrease to keep the power constant!!!!
so, i think you dont need any Ph.D degree to realize this fact…….all it takes is ONLY A LITTLE common sense which i think "B.Tech" Agha Waqar lacks!!!
AOA Hamid Mir, i really feel sorry for the scientists "Dr. Pervaiz Hodbhoy and Dr.shukat hameed" , their lack of knowledge to reply. I think scientist are not professionals and they dont know the basics of science, they are just earning money from their science degree and have never done no research….Please listen to me very carefully…this is true we can use electrolysis to run a car..i have seen this in Europe and china……..so please don't waste time on this with the stupid people..i have complete proof on this…………and let me tell you i saw the first car 10 years back and and then other on different part of the world. Now in Pakistan people are still debating on this ..look foolish to me…….if you wanna know more on it please let me know………….thanks, best wishes………..tc
Salam to all,
what Agha Waqar is claiming seems impossible. He is claiming that he is using Resonance to break the bond of water if it is true then i guess he discovered the frequency to break the the bond of H2O. in his previous interviews he never mention that??. i think he later picked this from on of the discussion forum on internet, he read it from there and now he is saying he is using Resonance. No offence to Agha Bahi but unfortunately he is going beyond limits of stupidity.
Agar aesa ho sakta to aj Europe, US or China me sari Cars or Machinery
"Pani' se na chal rahi hoti ???,,, Ye buddo un sb se zyada zaheen he???
AQAL karo Pakistanio,,, Din me khwb dekne chor do,,,,
Asal masail ki taraf aao,,, Tumara asal masla Zardari, Noora of Fazlu hen,,,
Ye PPP or Hukumat ki ek sazish he tumari jebon per daka dalne k lye,,,
Ye sub jote or chor hen inki sirf ek bat mano K Allah Ek he,, Or kuch b na mano,,
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Or yahan sirf wo comments kare jo Basic Science janta ho,,,
Har koi mu uta kr comnt na kre,,, Ye koi Veena Malik ka issue ni
Thanks for Reading
I am disappointed from the behaviour of our scientists. Rather than investigating the issue in a scientific way, they are abusing. Knowledge is not the property of any person. If someone is claiming a discovery, first prove it wrong or right – practically, not theoretically.
A trap for loot casoot by PPP and Agha Waqar,,,
My question is very simple,, we are having the worst energy crisis,,,
If agha sb can make 100 volts out of 10 by resonance ,, he should
solve our energy crisis by making 50,000 MW out of 5000 MW,,,
There will be no load shedding any more,,,
But i know he can only fool those minds who don t know basic science
Shame on you "You Jahil "
It is fundamentally wrong to conduct such debate on TV. General public don't have enough knowledge to decide on technical issues. It will confuse them
Scientific ( though this man Agha knows nothing about science) debates should be done in scholarly environment and tested in labs.
Now he is claiming to augment 10 volts to 100 volts. It is nothing but pure non- sense.
A Waqar, Himat jari Rakhee , Himatimada, Madadi khuda .EnglishDour ki BAni houi Bridges per mashhoor kiagia ke isski bananywale ke HATH Angress ne kat diy thy. That time. Easi bate Mashhor Karany waly yahi angreso ke AGENT,thy taake is mulk ke loog jahil piechy rahy. Herdor me hamary haa Ghadar peda hotyrahy.Ab Media kiyzariy in ghadaroo ki pehchan mumkin Asaanhochuki he.
Buy 10L of deasil and …
1- put in your car and run your car
2- make electricity with it
2.1- Use that electricity and water to make HHO
2.2- Run your car with it
same thing.
He is making you fool
Also by using the techniques of resonance clouds can be controlled….You can put rain where you want….& can stop raining for years in some area…..Allah k bando…..you think water is just a molecule of hydrogen & oxygen…. No…….The most mysterious creation of God Almighty….The Human Body…..Is produce & developed by Water……..Who knows how much hidden energies are there in water…..Have you ever think why all living bodies have 70% water inside….?????? Water run human Body…..Why it can't run a vehicle.???Shame for those who say fraud to Agha Waqar…..
hahahahha……….joke of the century!!! If water runs human body than i think you should STOP EATING coz only water would be enough to fuel your body and keep you going!!! LOL
LAKEER K FAQEER!!! LOL
Agha Waqar is 100% right……Science is not a confirm knowledge….For your kind information famous theory of Einstein, for which he was awarded with noble prize has been proved wrong……Dalton Atomic Theory has been proved wrong….Rutherford & Bohrs Atomic Model has been proved Wrong….Some other theories of bonding has been proved wrong….like VBT, MOT, VESPER…..& much more…. So nothing is exact in science….. & very important the world has developed techniques to produce EARTH QUAKES of severe intensity by using resonance phenomenon…..So nothing is impossible….Even the word Impossible says…I m Possible…..Agha Waqar is our National hero….give respect & honor to him….. Such people born after centuries…..
Dear Hassan Ali Laws of thermodynamics are the laws of Nature. Science didnt propose these laws, science only discovered these laws of Nature. And Mr. Agha Waqar is only a illiterate man who dont even what shit is talking about. Please even listen what he is saying 10volt say 100 volt,,, r u fu**ing kidding me
@ Bittter Truth, science is not belongs to any specific family, country or degree holders. Its the state of mind which reaches to the creation of Allah. As in the quran "We will show them Our Signs in the Universe and in their ownselves until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth". Soorat Fussilat {41:53}.
Laws of thermodynamics are human made laws and it can be made wrong with the passage of time and btw Newton`s was not a super man (that he can fly in the air) but an ordinary person with extra ordinary thoughts. Peace!
@KhanTheReal
Bhai sahab bhut saaf angrezi may samjhanay ki koshish ki thi maynay kay yeah laws of Thermodynamics science kay nahi Qudrat kay qanoon hain. Science nay sirf inko discover kia hay. Yeah theories nahi hain yeah Allah ka banaya hua nizaam hay. Allah kay siwa koi bhi energy takhleeq nahi karsakta. Ager aap samjhtay hain kay aisa mumkin hay aur insaan energy takhleeq kar sakta hay tu may sirf yehi dua karsakta hoon kay Allah aapko aqal aur shaoor ataa farmaye.
Did you even ATTEND the secondary school???
Do you even know what Einstein was awarded Noble Prize, for???
It wasnt for his work on either General Relativity or Special Relativity…….the Noble prize was awarded for his work on PHOTOELECTRIC EFFECT…….now PLEASE dont ask me what this is!!!
P.S: Einstein's theories were MERELY THEORIES……they were not laws!!! But the 1st LAW is a LAW and i hope you read the definition of a LAW in secondary school………its the ULTIMATE TRUTH about any phenomenon thats taking place in this universe!!! So, dont try to reinvent the wheel……you will only waste your time!!! LOL
P.P.S: Einstein's theory hasnt been proved wrong…….there were some flaws in special relativity which he corrected himself in General Relativity!!!
Did you even ATTEND the secondary school???
Do you even know what Einstein was awarded Nobel Prize, for???
It wasnt for his work on either General Relativity or Special Relativity…….the Nobel prize was awarded for his work on PHOTOELECTRIC EFFECT…….now PLEASE dont ask me what this is!!!
P.S: Einstein's theories were MERELY THEORIES……they were not laws!!! But the 1st LAW is a LAW and i hope you read the definition of a LAW in secondary school………its the ULTIMATE TRUTH about any phenomenon thats taking place in this universe!!! So, dont try to reinvent the wheel……you will only waste your time!!! LOL
P.P.S: Einstein's theory hasnt been proved wrong…….there were some flaws in special relativity which he corrected himself in General Relativity!!!
I am very sad and shocked to see this debate again and the comments of people here. Anybody who is criticizing Dr. Pervaiz Hodbhoy behavior kindly think a little about the reason why he was angry. I'll try to explain the whole thing by giving three examples.
1- If I claim that I have powers to control the motion of earth or If I claim I can control the wind, would you guys agree? Obviously not, even if I try to create some illusion everybody knows that these are the powers of Nature and nobody have any control over them.
The same thing goes for the water kit, he is claiming his system efficiency is more than 100%, it means he is claiming he can create energy, it means he is claiming he is God because only God can create energy.
"Energy cannot be created or destroyed" this is not a law of science it is a law of Nature. Second thing is that laws of thermodynamics are not the laws of science actually they are the laws of Nature and only Nature itself can break this laws. And for it you have to wait for judgment day.
2- A very simple example for so called educated people of our country.
If you have laptop or computer then you probably know that nowadays you can charge many of your cellphones using USB port of your laptop/computer. For example if you iPone you can charge it just by plugging it in to the USB port of your laptop. Now here the source of energy is your Laptop right? So what if I try to charge my laptop battery by the USB port of same laptop
. It means my laptop won't ever be discharge. It is same as the claim of Mr. Agha, why? because he is also claiming his source of energy is battery (to do electrolysis) and he is also saying he is charging his battery from the energy produced by the combustion of Hydrogen (which is actually produced by the battery current).
3- Why Dr. Pervaiz Hodbhoy was angry?
If I claim I am God, what our Islamic Scholar will do with me or what our common do with me? they will tear me apart in seconds.
So guys a Prof. who is a top most physicist of our country, for him physics is like his baby and then suddenly people like Mr. Agha comes and start bullshitting on national TV, then I think Dr. Pervaiz have every right to more harsh than he was.
At last with very sad heart, anybody who have ever tilt his head slightly for the affirmation/endorsement of this invention is highly illiterate and out of his senses because of his age and should be ban from any service related to science and tech.
mere peyare bhai hamid miir sahab mujhe to is baat par afsoos horaha h k etni behes keyun horahi h aap ko sab se pehle sab ciensdano ko betha kar chekc karwaen or on the recorde karke pher pochen k kon sacha h kon jhota h pori duneya ko pareshan na karen plees
I know Agha Waqar is Genuis, his intuition may defy the Universal Laws of Motion. I further know that Pervaiz hodbouy is nothing but a petty professor who has given this nation nothing, he is selfish thug along with Atta-ur-Rehman. shameless people as they are, with all life spending millions of rupees of taxpayers only to come on tv to refute new ideas and initiative by some one who has been not much blessed like to them to amass wealth with their meager so called 'scientific- intellectual'. People like Houdbouy and Atta-ur -Rehamn are enough to decimate our society & civic culture, least by Drones or foreign aggression.
these phds doctors do not even know how to talk with a common person… and the only reason is they are common pakistanis. They can not even think to talk like this with any foreign nationals …. they are basically jeolous not being able to do anything for the country and if somebody does something they will try their level best to let them down.
Hamid Mir seems to have been bribed to promote Agha. Agha's patrons want to milk the taxpayer by giving themselves tons of money thru Agha. Agha gets millions to make the kit. Millions get distributed.
water.
kia soch ha tuharey yar…hamid is a honest anchor yar…watch your alfaz plz
Hoodbohay is missing the point. The pure water is broken into HH and O gases through electrolysis process…there is no mystry here. Now let us tackle the question of efficiency. The source of current is provided from car bettery. So how long car bettery will run and whats about the 1st law of thermodynamics. Actually, there are few other sources of energies involved besids the power of car bettery. For example, the car alternator makes use of Kinetic energy of car's motion to run Alternaotr's rotor which converts the motion energy into electric energy that feeds the car bettery. So once function of Alternator is taken into account then it seems that 1st law of thermodynamics is kept intact.
Use ur common sense, thats why they say a little knowledge is always dangerous
Minimum amount of Energy Required to drive a normal car = 15hp = 15 x 746 = 11190w
Car Electrical Generator Capacity = 14v x 40A = 560w
H2O + Energy (max energy the car electrical system can provide 560w for electrolysis ) ——–> H + OH ——- ENGINE ——–> H20 + Energy (11190w to drive car + 560w for electrolysis + other losses)
If aga waqar tried to sold water kits and made money out from it by fooling innocent Pakistani people then Hamid mir is responsible for that…..
agha waqar invent some thing , philosphy is the mother of science , recently ein estin theory e=mc square has rejected , dr pervaiz hoodbouy is jeleous person and out spoken person , if agha waqar proof his theory then pervaiz hodbouy should sent to jail to demoralize new scinetsit agha waqar
I think its Froud……..
dear you just think…………………its totally fraud……..
oh this stupid pakistani scientist his way of talking is not a educated person i think Hamid Meer bring him some machli mandi area.please all pakistani d,nt give him respect.
This Man is Fraud and I am also shocked at listening these two big scientific clowns on GEO TV live
Here are facts on Electrolysis process for breaking up water into Hydrogen and oxygen
It is known that a gram-atom is equal to the atomic mass of a substance. A grammolecule is equal to themolecular mass of a substance. For example, the grammolecule of hydrogen in the water molecule is equalto two grams, while the gram-atom of the oxygen atom is 16 grams. The grammolecule of water is equal to18 grams. The mass of hydrogen in a water molecule is 2 x 100 / 18 = 11.11%. The oxygen mass is 16 x100 / 18 = 88.89%. This is the ratio of hydrogen and oxygen in one litre of water. It means that 111.11grams of hydrogen and 888.89 grams of oxygen are in 1000 grams of water. One litre of hydrogen weighs 0.09g. One litre of oxygen weighs 1.47g. This means that it is possible toproduce 111.11 / 0.09 = 1234.44 litres of hydrogen and 888.89 / 1.47 = 604.69 litres of oxygen from one litreof water. It appears from this, that one gram of water contains 1.23 litres of hydrogen. Energy consumptionfor the production of 1000 litres of hydrogen is 4 kWh and for one litre 4 Wh. As it is possible to produce1.234 litres of hydrogen from one gram of water, then, 1.234 x 4 = 4.94 Wh is spent in producing hydrogenfrom one gram of water using current methods of electrolysis
http://www.scribd.com/doc/46540019/Process-of-Wat…
Thanks for your lousy long essay, I couldn’t stop yawning.
Always hope to make something positive that’s why this country is suffering so much because of the negativity mind set up that this natioin has developed.
And your essay, damn! you have just wasted 5 min of my life.
Facts are really boring, are'nt they? But they do run life!
Hamid Mir is a complete idiot. Dr Atta explained 1st law of thermodynamic to them to in a layman terms that " you can not run the car on water only because output energy is always less than input, you lose some energy in the form of heat etc. To run a car on water, you have to generate Hydrogen gas by electrolysis and generating H2 by electrolysis is very inefficient process, you need a very powerful battery to break H2O into H2 and O". The cost of input energy "battery power" is more than the amount of energy "hydrogen" generated to run the car. Yes,you can run the car on the water but you have to have a 10KV generator installed on the back seat of your car to produce enough battery power to make hydrogen gas by electrolysis. Its very depressing to see the idiots like this agha guy, insulting people of Dr Atta and Dr Hood bhai's caliber. This Agha guy should first learn how to talk to people and then should invent something…….
Its not a big deal to produce high voltage from the 50- 80 Amperes battery…e.g. your old t.v sets were designed to work on the 12v battery and you know how high voltage the t.v fly bag have..? 15625…and high in the bigger sets …and the other example is your home UPS or Inverter that can produce 220 volts from 12volt battery..
But UPS runs for 10 mins if consumption is high.
It is possible to produce High Voltage from a Low Voltage, but its not possible to produce more energy from less energy, means energy remains the same in the process.
Yeh keh rahey hain ki ham ithey arsey sey science parha rahey hain, matlab yeh gadhey sirf lakeer key faqeer hain, in ko agey kuch nazar nahin aata, jo in ko bataya gaya hey miyaan mithoo ki tarah wohi bolti ja rahey hain. aur phir tayaar bhi nahin hain kit ko demonstrate karney key liye. sirf parhatey rahey hain kuch kaam karkey nahin diya is qoum ko.
Answers to the questions of all the critics can be easily found here
http://cosmoscientists.com/Agha%20Waqar's%20…
I have a request for the so called scientists like hoodbhoy to please be polite and since agha's invention is really a device not a theory that can be thoroughly tested so WHAT GIVES, let's test it out then talk and be respectful, on the other hand I respectfully believe in Agha sahib, way to go agha bhai. This is gotta be revolutionary
Here is the quote from Max Karl Planck, please read carefully
"http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009SPIE.7421E…9B
In 1900 Max Karl Planck performed his famous black-body radiation work which sparked the quantum revolution. Re-examination of that work has revealed hidden variables, consistent with Einstein's famous sentiment that quantum mechanics is incomplete due to the existence of "hidden variables". The recent discovery of these previously hidden variables, which have been missing from foundational equations for more than one hundred years, has important implications for theoretical, experimental and applied sciences and technologies. Planck attempted to integrate the new "resonant Hertzian (electromagnetic) waves", with existing Helmholtz theories on energy and thermodynamics. In his famous January 1901, paper on black-body radiation, Planck described two significant hypotheses – his well known Quantum Hypothesis, and his more obscure Resonance Hypothesis. Few scientists today are aware that Planck hypothesized resonant electromagnetic energy as a form of non-thermal energy available to perform work on a molecular basis, and that Planck's Resonance Hypothesis bridged the gap between classical Helmholtz energy state dynamics of the bulk macrostate, and energy state dynamics of the molecular microstate. Since the black-body experimental data involved only a thermal effect and not a resonant effect, Planck excluded the resonant state in his black-body derivation. He calculated Boltzmann's constant "kB" using completely thermal/entropic data, arriving at a value of 1.38 ×10-23 J K-1 per molecule, representing the internal energy of a molecule under completely thermal conditions. He further hypothesized, however, that if resonant energy was present in a system, the resonant energy would be "free to be converted into work". Planck seems to have been caught up in the events of the quantum revolution and never returned to his Resonance Hypothesis. As a result, a mathematical foundation for resonance dynamics was never completed. Boltzmann's constant was adopted into thermodynamic theories without its natural companion, the resonance factor ("rf")."
These all scientist are nonsense. The process of electrolysis is very clear and proven. The only issue is about efficiency. There are a lot devices that could enhance the current like capacitor etc. in simple most people are aware of UPS's that are used at home. (Battey 12Vs converted into 220) The theory is correct. No doubt you could Hydrogen from water by breaking it. The only issue is efficiency.
Agha Viqar and bothe scientics knew something and and were missing something. As many of you might already know that converting water to hydrogen through electrolysis is not a new concept. There are issues with economies of scale when we consider the production of hydrogen:
Only the Hydrogen (or the combination of Hydrogen & Oxygen, HHO) in water is a fuel.
It will always take more energy to get the Hydrogen out of water than you will get from it.
So, if you see videos of a guy pouring water in his car and claims it is powering it…
it's pure B.S. There has to be a completely separate (and very large) energy source to extract enough fuel from water on demand to power any car.
Cars typically require around 700 to 1,000 liters of gas PER MINUTE
to cruise at normal speeds.
These 'under the hood' kits you see for sale produce on average about 1 liter
of gas per minute. It's simple math.
To avoid repeating the same information, have a look at an article that Popular Mechanics
and Dateline NBC did investigating these HHO/Brown's Gas scams:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/how_to…
The second issue is that, when the hydrogen is used as a fuel then iy produces only water vapors as exhaust gas. This water vapor is highly corrosive. While the hydrogen gas may work in the short term it will highly tax the engine, its valves and exhaust etc. The only practical solution is the installation of full stainless steel exhaust right out of the exhaust manfold.
In addition to that the engine life could only be guarenteed by replacing the components which resist corrosion.
Third and most important issue is the staorage of oxygen. Hydrogen is highly combusitible gas. The only onwon method that efficienly works for the staorage of hydrogen is the use of Metal Hydride tanks.
See http://www.switch2hydrogen.com/h2.htm
Hydride is a material that requires nuclear accelerator for its production.
See the youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX2RxlXCZKA&fe…
Also watch Dr Roger Billings video on Youtube:
http://www.rogerebillings.com/ProjectReports/Proj…
and his website:
http://www.rogerebillings.com/ProjectReports/Proj…
These are some people who have done most successful work on hydrogen cars. Both are very near to the success. The biggest hurdle are the oil companies which are extremely afraid of oil alternatives and hydrogen is their biggest nightmare.
There is no need to have such a lengthy and un productive media debate on this, it is a scientific issue which can only be resolved by testing the kit.
It can be done via simple Exhaust Emission test equipment such as:
cnreliable.com/Auto-Testing-Series/Auto-Testing-Series-00533A.html
You do no need to expert to do these test and one can do it and even without this device tests can be peformed to check the exhaust emission.
No one is denying the theory or laws of Physics. But his invention hasn’t been tested and once you test it – it should clear doubts or reveal if there is a hidden something behind the scene but until then stop teaching us Physics.
It is good that Agha didn’t fly a machine through water because our scientists were confused for a long time even at Bumblee bee – according to scientists, bumble bee is doing a FRAUD (should be in jail – if you would ask our scientists) and it can’t fly according to the rules of aerodynamic laws.
AERODYNAMIC LAWS OF FLYING: Bumblebee cannot fly. Its body weight is not the right proportion to its wingspan. But Bumblee bee doesn’t know about this law so bee flies anyway.” Laws of aerodynamic were understood fully in recent years with the help of sophisticated computer technology which would help a lot in future flying machines and workout complex designs and technologies.
Lets face it – scientists are angry because it goes against their theory/laws. So, they are forcing their theory to Agha but only way they could settle this issue is to examine it PRACTICALLY. Who knows – maybe he accidentally invented something. But no a mechanic in western world could invent accidentally but not Pakistani..
Nothing is impossible in this word. It is very evident that Agha Waqar's claims are against the basic laws but many inventions are made by illiterate persons. But look at these doctors, particularly to Mr Hood Bhi, a well known agent of foreign forces, how he is behaving like a illiterate scholar?????????????????
I am not sure if Waqar is right or wrong but I am sure these professor are manner-less. Please at least try to speak like human being if you cant be a professor. This Hood..whole life has been giving analysis on politics and today he came on TV to teach people the laws of thermodynamics.
Usually in science (particularly in physics) discoveries come first & theoretical explanations become possible later. What I am saying does not mean Waqar is right, but at least if some poor person has been working on some idea and today he is presenting and offering you to test his work, at leas test it gently instead of demoralizing him.
With such attitudes like these professors are having..no body will dare to share ideas.
100% agree with you bazu
You can step up 12v DC to 100s of Volts DC by diodes and capacitors
Read this Scientist Theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockcroft%E2%80%93Wa…
See these videos
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hydro…
12v Car Battery Charge with Car Engine generator and through simple Diodes Circuit you can step up 12v DC to 100v DC or 200v DC or even 600v DC and produced large amount of Hydrogen to run any engine.
Oil mafia will trap you even you make this thing in Pakistan or in USA or Europe. they don't want this thing into common man Consumer.
Three Businesses are Top in World and none can stop them even Governments because they are giant mafia and they rulez the world.
1st. Oil Business
2nd. Drugs Business
3rd. Arms Business
So think Yourself , who is right and who is wrong.
i am not engineer or scientist but i see he said in capital talk we step up DC volts to make enough amount hydrogen to run car engine , which is logical and right.
Jis tara sy ye Parhy likhy Jaahil scienist is Bandy ko treat kr rahy hy
yaad rko choor hota to ab tk Khuda Hafiz keh daita
iska abi tk apni baat per qaim rehna or dunya jahan ki mukhlft saabit kr rhee hy k ye Banda agar sacha nhi apny Tajurby to Kam sy kam NIAT zarur sachee hy
Kiya ZARDARI, GANJY TAKLO, ALTAAF KALEEYE, IMRAAN, KHAN, MULA DIESEL, ETC
k bacho k sath ye sab aisa kr paaty Jaisa salook ye naam nehaad saicntist is Ghareeb ka kr rhy hy
Ay Khuda Tokeer rakna is bandy kui
q k Farsh k saary khudao sy ulaj baita hy
(petrol,deise, pump, spare patrs mafia etc ect)
orakzai
haan orakzai i agree with you, ya ager choor hota to ab tak bhaag gea hota yar,,, ibelieve he has invented some thing different and exidently but when i think about the laws of phcs, it did not add up, i am confused to be honest, lets the time decide about him and till we should wait and see. we hope hamid will do another final programme on this topic which will clear every thing.
No one is denying the theory or laws of Physics. But his invention hasn’t been tested and once you test it – it should clear doubts or reveal if there is a hidden something behind the scene but until then stop teaching us Physics.
It is good that Agha didn’t fly a machine through water because our scientists were confused for a long time even at Bumblee bee – according to scientists, bumble bee is doing a FRAUD (should be in jail – if you would ask our scientists) and it can’t fly according to the rules of aerodynamic laws.
AERODYNAMIC LAWS OF FLYING:
“Aerodynamic laws of science clearly states that claims that bumblebee cannot fly. Its body weight is not the right proportion to its wingspan. But Bumblee bee doesn’t know about this law so bee flies anyway.”
Lets face it – scientists are angry because it goes against their theory/laws. So, they are forcing their theory to Agha but only way they could settle this issue is to examine it PRACTICALLY. Who knows – maybe he accidentally invented something. But no a mechanic in western world could invent accidentally but not Pakistani..
Incorrect, its a myth
please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumblebee#Flight
AND SHUT THE HELL UP !
Laws of aerodynamic were understood fully only in recent years with the help of sophisticated computer technology which would help a lot in future flying machines and workout complex designs and technologies.
I hope it explains it you dick heads…
incorrect, its a myth, shows your level of knowledge.
please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumblebee#Flight
the thing about Bumblebee you have been copying and pasting so many times. ITS A MYTH !!
shows your level of knowledge
please shut up now
Thank you for enlightening me here but it is only to give you a scenario – got it.
Get your IQ checked. I bet it'll be below average.
Now Plz shut up.
hahahahah…….you post a thing which is not true and then have the audacity to tell me to get my IQ checked !
The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it the more it will contract.”. The water kit crowd will never listen to anything logical, just making up bullshit!
hamid, please keep on fallowing the developments on agha waqar, i congratulate you once again on a very good and successful programme. i really liked it brother, a lot of respect for you
These so called “scientists” are themselves looking like the men from the dark ages where there were no civilization existed in the world.
At least these “scientists” have to bring their matric certificates with them to show that if not more, even then they are at least matric pass scientist, because the thermodynamic laws are also taught in matric.
Agha Waqar can be right or wrong but it should be evaluated scientifically by real scientists not by these "drama scientists"
fully agreed you PHPFAST.
not agreed
No problem, ali123 you can not agree due to your extremely low IQ level
kuch bi mumken hey ? zardari pakistan pe raj kar sakta hey ? raja rental pm ban sakta hey ? ch nisar wig sameet niha sakta hey? abid sher ali awami leder ban sakta hey ? raja riaz senior wazeer ban sakta hey ? parvez elahi naib pm ban sakta hey ? hanif abasi manshiaat bech sakta hey . frangi malik rehman wazeer dakhla ban sakta hey . itzaz ahsen not le kar bik sakta hey . A U R is pakistan ke awam murda zameer andhey behray goongey be hiss ho sakte heen . tooooooooooooooooooo what ic imposibel . ie moula kareem ham tujh se insaf naheen mangte ( hamary amaal kemutabiq insaf hoa to barbadi ke swa kuch naheen ) IS liey khuda se sirf aur sirf rehm mango . ie ALHA hame iman ke sath sath thori si geert bi de . hame aqel ke sath thori si himet bi atta kar ta ke ik dafa sach ka sath de kar pane gazashta gunahon ka kufara ada kar sakeen PTI ZINDABAD
i respect hamid mir but he was really pssing me off..
hamid should have done some basic research
even a 10th grader knows the basic stuff which hamid doesnt know….
when agha waqar was talking about free energy and resonance i felt like banging my head on the wall…he was uttering complete rubbish..
i was a bit optimistic regarding agha waqar initially but after watching this program i am sure agha waqar is a mistake..
brother let the time decide who is wrong, agha waqar is doing every thing in front of people and he is asking any body to bring his car, he will make it run without fuel. i want him to succeed for pakistan sake….though mind is 50 50 but wish him good luck
Who doesn't want to cut out the energy expenses and everyone wants the country's pride and grace but The reason that lead me to the belief of his fraudulence act is below.
First he said he has "invented" a water kit that let us run car by water..as the title of previous concerned capital talk was about the invention and water car. He has retracted from some of his statements and now added the resonant effect etc which is irrelevant.
Ye sab bakwaas sun sun kr loog tang aa gaye hain hamare ye kaam choor aur useless scientist 65 years mein siwae paise khane ke kuch nai kr sake haram….zadoon ne aik choti si invention tak nai ki ab agar aik banda claim krta bhi ha to ku….tte ke bacho tv per baith ker kyun bhoo…nkte ho ja ker practical test kro aur wahin se live programme per sach ya jhoot ha proof kr do . Mere khayaal mein aise ha…rami scientists ko ulta latka ker chittar maarne chahiye
Jaise awaam waise hi leaders aur waise hi scientist
How can people of my country be so ignorant !! this guy is telling a blatant lie on National Television.This should be testing by a committee before being shown on media !!
What a "great English" you have written here! Excellent!!
It would be good if you could get your comments checked by an editorial committee, even 10th grade students can check your 'Royal English'
would have been great if you could have pointed out the mistake.
Professor sahab !
Try to get admission in a primary school, and you will be able to learn there!
everybody is missing the point that it is true that hydrogen can be produced by electrolysis but the amount of energy (current) needed to produce that hydorgen would be much costlier then the hydrogen produced, this is the reason the hydrogen cells invented to run cars have not been cost effective. the battery used by agha waqar to produce hydrogen would die very soon and thus add cost of the replacement of battery and the car alternator won't be able to charge tthe battery for long as the battery cells internally will be weakening too fast which agha waqar has not realized as he has been demonstrating for short period of time.
WITNESS
your every world is true sir, but agha is so confident and he is saying one thing from day one that the battery is rechargable and it will not die as he need a very little amount of the energy from the battery, i am fully agree with you as the rules are exactly what you are saying but i still believe that agha has invented some thing exidently
آغا وقار صاحب الله آپ کا وقار بلند کرے . آمین
پیارے الله آپکو کامیابی عطا فرماے . آمین
آپ ان فزکس کے رٹا لگانے والے ماسٹروں کی بولتی بند کر دیں . جو آپکو فراڈ فراڈ تو کہتے ہیں، مگر دلیل دینے اور اخلاق سے خالی ہیں،
آغا صاحب آپ امید پاکستان ہو. بس ہمت نہ ہارنا .
انشا الله . یہ لوگ کل کو اپنا منہ چھپاتے پھریں گے. انشاالله
aby o Jo hazaro english k commmnts k beech URSU font my Commnt kry
suay to bilkul science physics ki baat nhi krnee chaiee
I Know You Are An Indian Dog.
You cannot Read Urdu Font.
Also Dog Cannot Change His Habbit , Woh Woh Woh, Even Dogs At Home or On Street.
Sheam On You.
Agha Waqar is Truly Good men as i judge him from tv videos, he is poor guy and he is not asking to gov give me 1 billion like dr samer mubarak to make kits, he is just asking wait i will make kit in next couple of months and market it. but oil companies are scared with this because if they market the kits in next couple month to local consumers and if its successful and it will make a huge bang!!! so they make propaganda about him to give him punishment as early as they can. they don't want him to market this kit. you know PSO is Pakistan Gov biggest Billionare company why they want it?. Shell is world richest and biggest Company why they want this to happen?
because this is billions $$$ game the oil companies don't want to get this thing out because if this out in any part of the world then it will automatically spread in whole world and no one buy oil. So Oil giants give lot of money to Media, Scientists to make propaganda. to make Agha Waqar as a fraud. and take them to jail then others don't have dare to make this thing again. Even they can kill Agha but they won't because he is now famous and also if they kill him it 100% prove that he is right.
You can make hydrogen with tap water (go search youtube you will find many videos on how to make hydrogen with simple tap water)
Now first you have need good source of energy (current) to separate hydrogen from water, 12v is not enough to do this So first you make a circuit to step up (12v DC to 100v DC without transformer) you can get this circuit diagram by Google search. Now connect your hydrogen kit to Circuit and connect circuit to 12v battery (between circuit and battery make a connection with car ignition switch) so when car ignition switch ON, circuit is start to make 100v DC Now 12v car battery current boost into 100v dc through DC step up circuit and process start 100v dc current is enough to make good amount of hydrogen from water. And run the car engine with this hydrogen and battery will charge with car generator and produce 100v through that circuit continuously. when car ignition off circuit will also off and all process will stop.
you will see agha waqar will be die or punished by gov by this propaganda it's my thinking … hope u like this.
“The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it the more it will contract.”. The water kit crowd will never listen to anything logical, just making up bullshit!
So true.
Attention: IMPORTANT – IMPORTANT – VERY IMPORTANT
All people who are educated in the field of Sceience and Technology and have also experience in Enginnering Physics.
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Please read this Research Paper on Water Car of Agha. This paper tells clearly and Agha is not Fraud but Ata Rehman, Hoodbhoy and many other THEORETICAL Ph.D's are in fact foooooooool Jaahils & they do not have EXPERIENCE+Ability to understand that new greatest invention of mankind hisrory, invented by Agha.
Read this file and also please forward this file to all ur educated friends. Thanks.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?abbsyd4onei3u7s
Author of this paper is Professional Engineers with over 30 years experience in the field of Engineering Physics.
Attention: IMPORTANT – IMPORTANT – VERY IMPORTANT
All people who are educated in the field of Sceience and Technology and have also experience in Enginnering Physics.
===========================
Please read this Research Paper on Water Car of Agha. This paper tells clearly and Agha is not Fraud but Ata Rehman, Hoodbhoy and many other THEORETICAL Ph.D's are in fact foooooooool Jaahils & they do not have EXPERIENCE+Ability to understand that new greatest invention of mankind hisrory, invented by Agha.
Read this file and also please forward this file to all ur educated friends. Thanks.
http://is.gd/7vcTTJ
Author of this paper is Professional Engineers with over 30 years experience in the field of Engineering Physics.
Aga Wakar ko allah kamyab kary ameen!! hodd bhi Fraud hay kyn kayy wo iss ka koii proof nahee day rahaaa buss buraa bhlaa kahh rhaaa hay !!! orr uni
KSTON
AGREE WITH YOU BROTHER 100%
What a disgrace these Doctors are in the name of education and Pakistan.
Irrespective of whether Waqas is right or not, these so called educated people badly need to learn how to speak like an educated person. There choice of word is absolutely pathetic. There speech is worst than an illiterate person. Just because they have done Ph.D, it doesn't allow them to talk in such a disgraceful manner.
They may be right in what they are saying but their behaviour is not excusable. Shame on guys!!
You are right, these so called "scientists" are themselves looking like the men from the dark ages where there were no civilization existed in the world.
At least these "scientists" have to bring their matric certificates with them to show that if not more, even then they are at least matric pass scientist, because the thermodynamic laws are also taught in matric
I thought Agha is an ignorant mechanic, who believed that he has discovered some magical formula : in his ignorant views. But after watching this video, it is very clear that the guy is an Absolute fraud.
The comments on this page are remarkable. I'm stunned by the ignorance on this page on issues of basic science. I'm not a physicist by any standard, but I'm familiar with the basics. I would defer to actual PhD professors any day of the week, then listen to some know-nothing who can't properly pronounce basic science terms.
I'm left speechless. You CANNOT suspend the laws of physics!
Whoever is taking sides against actual scientists in favor of this junk Agha Waqar need to get their heads examined. Grow a fu-cking BRAIN!
No one is denying the theory or laws of Physics. But his invention hasn't been tested and once you test it – it should clear doubts or reveal if there is a hidden something behind the scene but until then stop teaching us Physics.
It is good that Agha didn’t fly a machine through water because our scientists were confused for a long time even at Bumblee bee – according to scientists, bumble bee is doing a FRAUD (should be in jail – if you would ask our scientists) and it can’t fly according to the rules of aerodynamic laws.
AERODYNAMIC LAWS OF FLYING:
“Aerodynamic laws of science clearly states that claims that bumblebee cannot fly. Its body weight is not the right proportion to its wingspan. But Bumblee bee doesn’t know about this law so bee flies anyway.”
Lets face it – scientists are angry because it goes against their theory/laws. So, they are forcing their theory to Agha but only way they could settle this issue is to examine it PRACTICALLY. Who knows – maybe he accidentally invented something.
You are right. He accidentally invented a super long turd of pure bullshit! His fault is that he is a pure bullshitter and your fault is that your are a dimwit! You are the type of people who spend their lives masturbating and still have the audacity to ridicule people like professor Hoodbhoy who spent countless years studying, experimenting and generally devoting their lives to science. It can only happen in our society which has become so twisted that everyone is now an expert in any field. God help us!
It is all state of mind – you are what you think Mr.Bullshitter. Plz don't do your shit everywhere.
bhai jan.
The story you have been repeating about the bumblebee is a MYTH.
Its incorrect.
Shut the F*** up! Do think Dr.A.Q khan is a jerk or what who did not oppose Agha Waqar. I am still confused if you people really exists in this world, if yes then where is your brain?, Why it can't work? Whenever you see any allegation against anything, you blindly follow it?..Never try to examine it??
Let's say you find someone saying that your mother has relation with somebody…Will you never confirm this before admitting it??……I'm still confused about you your approach. The only difference is that Mr Hood what ever is a lecturer and not a scientist and he believes in theories and not in practical experiences, this is one of the reasons he never discovered anything. And to be honest that other bull sitter who is licking Dr Hood's ass is seemed to be a paid servant. This is a simple thing to understand. If someone is trying to do something we all should appreciate him instead of criticizing him. This sort of situation always ends up where people like Agha Waqar usually leave this country and the reason behind is "Criticism" on their hard work.
Just for a sake of an argument if I agree to Mr. Hood and another guy that means I am denying the fact that Mr.A.Q khan is a scientist and he doesn't know the basic laws of physics. And to me its just funny nothing else that a person who is the mastermind of the Atom bomb doesn't know the basic laws of physics. How can you say a person a fraud or anything like this without checking what he has discovered? Now I one last thing
There are so many things that are In the Holy Quran which the scientists do not agree to but we all know that those are right such the existence of this universe . Also all giant inventions were first practically examined and then the theories were written.
I don't get, why such blind trust in Agha Waqar? dismissing a PHD from THE best university on the world for Agha Waqar. Have you driven the car? met him? What if he turns out to be a fraud? what will you say then? you were encouraging a fraud?
Its simple the guy is saying something which goes against the fundamental law of physics, laws which have existed for decades, which despite such technical advancement have never been broken, Laws on which the understanding of the whole universe is based.
You want us to believe a man who's device has not been yet 'scientifically' checked when he says he has broken the fundamental laws of physics.
I understand you want a shortcut, Pakistan creates energy from water, cheap fuel, cheap everything. But my friend, shortcut do not exist in life, you have to earn everything through hard work.
Encouraging a fraud will lead to encouraging fraudster-in waiting
Listen Mate! I don't want to be rude or something but your logic shows how intellectual you and your professors are. Don't try and seize the public. Mr Hood is trying to be an introvert. He is trying to impose his opinion. who says that any law which has existed for decades can't be proven wrong? now most of our human's theories, are based only on speculation. Now, do you know that the second law of thermodynamics has been proven wrong and its on the bbc's website
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2135779.stm
I do not know why are you guys creating a fuss. If some one has done something appreciate him instead of demotivating that person. And to be honest i do not find a single logic of what Mr.Hood and the other guy is saying. Also i am not a student of physics but We all know (or should know) that the 1st law of thermodynamics states "energy can neither be created nor destroyed."
So then why does the universe have energy?
I mean, its silly to say you can't create energy, and then say energy exists. So this leads me to believe that the first law of thermodynamics can be broken, albeit the exception(s) is probably still unknown to science.
Well done Mir.you are A patreatic citizen willing to promote the people like Waqar. The socalled scientests are
White elephant sitting in air condition offices of universities eating millions of rupees from budget and theyer's
Input is Zeero. They can see only what is written in between the line. They should talk politely and come forward to test the water kit and if it need improvement they should help Waqar instead of blaming him. Once
Again I salute you.
His fault is that he is a pure bullshitter. And your fault is that your are a dimwit! You are the type of people who spend their lives masturbating and still have the audacity to ridicule people like professor Hoodbhoy who spent countless years studying, experimenting and generally devoting their lives to science. It can only happen in our society which has become so twisted that everyone is now an expert in any field. God help us!
First you write/do masturbate and in the end you say God help us – help you with what?
Your actual words should be more like "Allah (provided if that is your God as well) should give you hadayat" so that you should not say/do shit when you open your mouth in any forum.
You have shown that you get your scientific inspirations from the Taliban, you Neanderthal. No go and look up some other bumblebee bullshit from Google. The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it the more it will contract.”
NUST, GIK and many other independent institutions have offered to test this kit. This mr. Agha Fraud will never let them do it. Even in this program he avoided the offers to test it by both the good scientist.
Parvez Hudbhi, Ata-ur Rahman etc are the stupid people…. ye serf parhay likhay jahil hain
AGHA WAQAR— don't worry, you have shown you grace and dignity against Parvez Donkey…. Poora Pakistan aap ko salam karta hay
Agha Waqar's fault is that he is a pure bullshitter. And your fault is that your are a dimwit! You are the type of people who spend their lives masturbating and still have the audacity to ridicule people like professor Hoodbhoy who spent countless years studying, experimenting and generally devoting their lives to science. It can only happen in our society which has become so twisted that everyone is now an expert in any field!
How much you are getting per posting? Get a life Mr.Moran Oh sorry its Moron as you clearly spelled your name right.
I would again say that it is all state of mind you are what you do. In your case maybe a masturbater.
Go back to your 7-11 night shift, asshole. This is a scientific debate, not suited to morons.
FIRST OF ALL WORSHIP ONLY ONE TRUE GOD-ALLAH (SCIENTISTS OF ALL SCIENTISTS) STOP SAYING KUFAR EVEN IN AN ARGUMENT.
SECONDLY WE CAN'T COMMENT ON HIS INVENTION BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TESTED IT YET. HE COULD BE WRONG BUT WHAT IF HE IS RIGHT? NO ONE IS DISAGREEING WITH THEORY – TEST IT PRACTICALLY.
It is good that Agha didn’t fly a machine through water because our scientists were confused for a long time even at Bumblee bee – according to scientists, bumble bee is doing a FRAUD (should be in jail – if you would ask our scientists) and it can’t fly according to the rules of aerodynamic laws.
AERODYNAMIC LAWS OF FLYING:
“Aerodynamic laws of science clearly states that claims that bumblebee cannot fly. Its body weight is not the right proportion to its wingspan. But Bumblee bee doesn’t know about this law so bee flies anyway.”
Lets face it – scientists are angry because it goes against their theory/laws. So, they are forcing their theory to Agha but only way they could settle this issue is to examine it PRACTICALLY. Who knows – maybe he accidentally invented something.
If Agha Waqar could suspend the laws of physics, I would start worshiping his as God. He is a junk scientist.
His fault is He is not belongign frm any Jageerdar wader family
he is not studnt of ZABIST, LUMS, atau rehman ect ect
In west pple n their Govt n msot Importntly civil society apprecite pple who wants do smthgn Gud n extra Ordinary for their country
Atleast u shud appreciite his aim n Moto 2 Run all vehicle on Water sod at he can save trillions of dollar of our country
SHAME ON U N ALL THOSE
Hamari society my bardasht or apprecite krny ka jazba khatam ho gaya hy
is liyee zalalat bharee zindgee guzar rhy hy
Agha Waqar my apki invention ki nhi
Ap k AIM ko salute rkta hu !!!!!!!
His fault is that he is a pure bullshitter. And your fault is that your are a dimwit! You are the type of people who spend their lives masturbating and still have the audacity to ridicule people like professor Hoodbhoy who spent countless years studying, experimenting and generally devoting their lives to science. It can only happen in our society which has become so twisted that everyone is now an expert in any field!
TRUTH: Pakistani Water Car invented by Agha Waqar & his team is indeed the greatest invention of mankind history: A Nation that has one of the most creative brains in the world has finally won.
Any wise person can understand at the spot that it is despicable crime to declare Agha Waqar a fraud with out finding physically any fraud in car that he has already demonstrated in front of top journalists politicians and many Ph.D's. Some theoretical Ph.D's has launched hate campaign against the greatest inventor of mankind history Agha Waqar. All objections of these some IRRESPONSIBLE Ph.D's do not carry any weight and sense. They WRONGLY claim, this invention violates laws of science; in fact it does not. The reason of their totally absurd claims is their jealousy against inventor & their inability to understand that new invention. Their universe of science has been stuck & confined to a blackbox called electrolysis. Just like a rusty deformed crooked needle of a retired old wall-clock that is stuck at one place due to its weak battery. So these some useless jealous Ph.D's have lost their faculty to think OUT OF BOX. They will not understand mechanics of this greatest invention unless they start to think out of box. Sometime they say, Agha is not engineer, so he cannot invent. But Edison the biggest inventor of history was too neither Ph.D nor even B.Engg. Ata Rehman & Hoodbhoy are driving their truck in wrong direction on one way road. Their all hue & cry is, that car cannot be run on electrolysis with battery but they do not know that method of Agha is ABSOLUTELY not conventional Electrolysis. When they will know his method, they will not sleep for many nights. [Hint: Cold Fusion]
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Agha is not well versed in theory and even does not know the mechanics of what he has invented, U know and we know that electrolysis cannot proceed in distilled water. We believe major role in this invention is of two engineers who are in his team.
He has been trying BY HIT AND TRIAL method from 3 yrs and GOD has bestowed honour on him and he succeeded by accident to invent the biggest invention of mankind history that can in fact run planes ships missiles submarines factories ++++. He deserve the biggest Nobel prize of History.
His method is in fact CONTROLLED COLD FUSION that EU and U.S scientists failed to proceed in past 100 yrs.
Can you stop cutting and pasting the same old bullshit everywhere? You have been pastedcthebsme reply in at least thirty places. Another bullshitter!
Shutup u brainless jahil
Attention: IMPORTANT – IMPORTANT – VERY IMPORTANT
All people who are educated in the field of Sceience and Technology and have also experience in Enginnering Physics.
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Please read this Research Paper on Water Car of Agha. This paper tells clearly that Agha is not Fraud but Ata Rehman, Hoodbhoy and many other THEORETICAL Ph.D's are in fact foooooooool Jaahils & they do not have EXPERIENCE+Ability to understand that new greatest invention of mankind history, invented by Agha.
Read this file and also please forward this file to all ur educated friends. Thanks.
http://is.gd/7vcTTJ
Author of this paper is Professional Engineers with over 30 years experience in the field of Engineering Physics.——————–
Can you stop cutting and pasting the same old bullshit everywhere? You have been pasted the same reply in at least thirty places. Another bullshitter!
The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it the more it will contract.”
@Wakeup
Dnt forget U Guter dee chabee ,
A.Q Khan
didnt delcre him Fruad . .
remmber
u Bloody fool Panjabee. .
never ever wants 2 see
any other cast progress in pak
Its too mcuh after ahngign sindhi PM, killign og baloch, bangooli's, pashtoons
n
Now unnessary critism on this Poor Guy
Dear agan m sying
M SALUTING THE AIM N MOTO of this Guy, ,
Dam care weather hsi experimnt got verifcation frm so called Sciettist of Punjab LUMS, etc etc
My suggestion to you is to improve your English before attempting an intellectual discourse. Domyou know what I am saying, moron?
It is good that Agha didn’t fly a machine through water because our scientists were confused for a long time even at Bumblee bee – according to scientists, bumble bee is doing a FRAUD (should be in jail – if you would ask our scientists) and it can’t fly according to the rules of aerodynamic laws.
AERODYNAMIC LAWS OF FLYING:
“Aerodynamic laws of science clearly states that claims that bumblebee cannot fly. Its body weight is not the right proportion to its wingspan. But Bumblee bee doesn’t know about this law so bee flies anyway.”
Lets face it – scientists are angry because it goes against their theory/laws. So, they are forcing their theory to Agha but only way they could settle this issue is to examine it PRACTICALLY. Who knows – maybe he accidentally invented something.
You are right. He accidentally invented a super long turd of pure bullshit! His fault is that he is a pure bullshitter and your fault is that your are a dimwit! You are the type of people who spend their lives masturbating and still have the audacity to ridicule people like professor Hoodbhoy who spent countless years studying, experimenting and generally devoting their lives to science. It can only happen in our society which has become so twisted that everyone is now an expert in any field!
It is all a state of mind – you are what you say. In your case maybe a masturbater.
Did you even read my post Mr.Moran.
Idiot, the word is not Moran, it is moron, you moron!
How much you are getting per posting? Get a life Mr.Moran Oh sorry its Moron as you clearly spelled your name right.
I would again say that it is all state of mind you are what you do. In your case maybe a masturbater.
Go back to your 7-11 night shift, asshole. This is a scientific debate, not suited to morons.
TRUTH: Pakistani Water Car invented by Agha Waqar & his team is indeed the greatest invention of mankind history: A Nation that has one of the most creative brains in the world has finally won.
Prologue.
Any wise person can understand at the spot that it is despicable crime to declare Agha Waqar a fraud with out finding physically any fraud in car that he has already demonstrated in front of top journalists politicians and many Ph.D's. Some theoretical Ph.D's has launched hate campaign against the greatest inventor of mankind history Agha Waqar. All objections of these some IRRESPONSIBLE Ph.D's do not carry any weight and sense. They WRONGLY claim, this invention violates laws of science; in fact it does not. The reason of their totally absurd claims is their jealousy against inventor & their inability to understand that new invention. Their universe of science has been stuck & confined to a blackbox called electrolysis. Just like a rusty deformed crooked needle of a retired old wall-clock that is stuck at one place due to its weak battery. So these some useless jealous Ph.D's have lost their faculty to think OUT OF BOX. They will not understand mechanics of this greatest invention unless they start to think out of box. Sometime they say, Agha is not engineer, so he cannot invent. But Edison the biggest inventor of history was too neither Ph.D nor even B.Engg. Ata Rehman & Hoodbhoy are driving their truck in wrong direction on one way road. Their all hue & cry is, that car cannot be run on electrolysis with battery but they do not know that method of Agha is ABSOLUTELY not conventional Electrolysis. When they will know his method, they will not sleep for many nights.
A Bold truth is, that a few theoretical Scientists and Ph.D’s are Jahil Ignorant who attach this invention with the "Law of Conservation of Energy" These Ph.D's are like that donkey of Noble Quran that is loaded with Books (Quran 62:5). Agha’s Water-Kit is the greatest invention of mankind history & that invention has no any relation with the law of conservation of energy & Law of thermodynamics. Soon a time will come when these a few Jahil theoretical Ph.Ds who are insulting Agha Waqar in "TV SHOWS", will be hiding their faces from public. Please note that the biggest "Practical Ph.D scientist" of Pakistan A.Q Khan has supported this invention. A Ph.D has good knowledge but he cannot claim that he knows all and his knowledge is complete. COMPLETE KNOWLEDGE IS ONLY with Allah Jalla Aala Aleem-ul-Khabir. If I have not visited Lahore that does not mean that I should claim that Lahore does not exist. Existing our some theoretical Ph.Ds has no ability to understand that greatest Invention of Agha Waqar. But instead of admitting that they do not have ability to understand that new invention; they are yelling on this humble gentleman Agha by declaring him fraud. This is extremely irresponsible attitude. Unless fraud is caught physically in that car; no one has right to announce in TV shows that it is fraud. Ph.D’s know of course many things; YET THEY DO NOT KNOW EVERY THING. Only Allah Aleem-ul-Khabir Knows everything. When Prophet Moses claimed that he was the most learned man of that time; Allah sent him Wahi & said O Moses: This is not correct, I have people on this earth who have even more knowledge than you. He was then advised to travel with Khizer (detail is in Sura Kahaf in Glorious Quran)
We sincerely say, that If Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, & King of Inventors Thomas Edison were alive today, they would had travelled to the house of Agha Waqar in Khairpur Sindh Pakistan to salute Agha Waqar. If "Alfred Nobel" of Sweden could come out of his grave today, he could has suggested "Nobel Prize Committee" that please change name of "Nobel Prize" to "Agha Waqar Prize". Reader should note that king of inventors EDISON who also invented electrical lamp was so poor that he used to sell Newspapers and used to cultivate vegetables in his house, so to sell them in order to pay expenses of his education. A jealous group who is against the invention of Agha Waqar says, how a diploma holder can invent. First of all Agha has Bachelor in Technology B.Tech, Moreover, reader should note that the biggest inventor of history Thomas Edison was a simple technician. He was not B.Engg or Ph.D.
First of all, reader should know that Agha is not very good in theory so was unable to explain his greatest invention of mankind history in theoretical terms. He even does not know that what he has invented is a complete new invention that easily cracks water into H and OH & his new technique does not need more current from car battery except tiny milliamps that is less than even the consumption of car radio. So practically there will be no any additional load on car battery. A professional engineer at the spot can know the fact that it is not electrolysis because electrolysis cannot be activated with distilled water. And we know that Agha waqar's kit uses distilled water. In fact he has invented complete new method which is IN NO WAY conventional electrolysis that need too much electric power to proceed
Law of Conservation says that energy neither be produced not destroyed but energy can be transformed from one form to other. In Agha’s Kit invention, neither Energy is being CREATED nor DESTROYED; therefore it in no way violates the Law of conservation of Energy or thermodynamics. It is just transforming chemical energy of water into heat energy and then after burning in engine to Mechanical energy. So simply, nothing is changed except that black Petrol has been replaced by White-Petrol[Water}. Black Petrol carries Hydrogen also and White-Petrol Water carries Hydrogen gas also. So any Ph.D or a so called scientists who says, that this inventions violates Law of conservation of Energy for sure he is telling lies to people. The main objection by some these Theoretical useless Ph.Ds is that car battery is unable to sustain the electrical supply to electrolysis unit of that invented KIT because as per these theorists, Energy produced by electrolysis will be less than the energy being consumed by battery and car will not run. But we all have seen that Car is running. That is itself Proof that what Theorists has assumed is incorrect otherwise car MUST NOT RUN but it runs in practice. This is the most important part of this invention. Now this objection of theoretical Ph.Ds seems correct if old conventional technique of electrolysis is used that need too much electric power to proceed. But Agha’s team has invented a new technique of Electrolysis which is core part of this invention. In Agha’s technique, he has used distilled water to make it dialectic between about 20 metallic plates & he put that unit in series RLC circuit that he managed/calculated to operate at resonance level that periodically produce millions of volts, changes plates with distilled water’s dielectric into a very powerful capacitance. In that scenario, Water becomes unable to hold bond between H and OH ions and huge quantity of H & OH gases start to produce. Following video can show u how it works. http://is.gd/vEJETl Because reaction is in resonance so it is now almost self-sustaining. To convert it from “almost self-sustaining” to “100% sustaining” a very little current from car battery is supplied to that gas-producing unit; that current in milliamps is so small that even less than the current that Car Radio uses.
Also note that Car battery is always charged by builtin electric DC Generator of car in every car when car is running. Therefore in practice this invention will have no any effect on the capacity and life of car battery. It is like mechanical benefit. For example, can one person lift his car with his one hand above ground? Answer is NO. But one person when places Jack between his hand and car, he can now lift car easily. Resonance in RLC circuit is in lieu of that mechanical Jack that lifts car easily. Another example is pendulum of big wall Clock. Another Example is Swing of girl (In Punjabi Kurree) that she makes after tying rope at the branch of tree. At the beginning, she needs someone to push her in swing [external force] but later she will continue swing herself. Now periodically a little external push is needed to keep her continue. Another Example is big wheel. U need force to move it. But when it is is rotating, u need very little external force to continue its rotation. For new invention also very little current of battery is needed to keep the reaction continue. Besides, there is high probability [to be investigated in future] that periodic pulse of millions volts among metallic plates also can fuse some hydrogen partially that creates so big energy that system will easily sustain. Even if we ignore fusion, so high voltage will increase production of H and OH exponentially from 100 to thousands time more than conventional old style electrolysis which will be more than enough that is needed by Car. Kit size is also a factor in production rate. For example for railway engine or a factory, either more Kits or bigger Kits will be designed.
The biggest test to prove a truth is practical demonstration in front of people which is eyewitness and observation. If old theories of man-made books contradict eye-witnessed demonstration then either old theory is wrong or it need update as per new invention. Agha Waqar has demonstrated his water car in front of journalists, politicians, ministers and many many Ph.D engineers. No one was able to find any fraud in his car. Unless fraud is found physically in that invented water car; it is moral bankruptcy and cheapness to declare that this man is doing fraud. There is another Jealous group of liars who first of all deny this greatest invention owing to their ignorance and inablity to understand this invention. Moreover they are spreading lies every where that what Agha has done is already being done by people from many years. These shameless liars must know that no one ever succeeded in this world to run car SOLELY on 100% Water by replacing petrol 100%. In past people tried not to replace petrol by water but to reduce the consumption of petrol by blending in it some gas. Agha is first person in world who has replaced 100% petrol by water. Just throw petrol tanks away and use water only.
Thu this invention does not violates any law of physics but we should also tell truth that Science is not dogma or scripture like Noble Quran that will not change. Science has been falsified many times by its own new laws over time. Popular Dalton theory about Atom 70 years ago has been fully rejected and falsified by modern Atomic Physics of Today. Newton's laws of motion were suspended on September 11th 2001, after 314 years..2nd law of thermodynamics is in fact already debunked in past, see proof at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv53K9MnDuM Also we should know another truth that thu it is good to achieve an Ph.D but a Ph.D is never a license for new inventions. In fact if we study past history, majority of great inventors like Edison were just simple hardworking technicians. This is matter of fact that In Pakistan B.Sc Engineers and Ph.D’s think that how a graduate of Technology can invent? This kind of their thought is based on total nonsense and jealousy. I suggest reader to read following file in which each step of Agha’s invention is given in detail. This file is an excellent source of info for who has good understanding in engineering physics. To Sum up: That Water-kit of Agha team is indeed the greatest invention of mankind history. It will change whole globe and soon no one will be buying petrol. [Author of this article is in the field of practical Engineering physics from over two decades].
http://is.gd/hkaVsb
Debunking all articles and TV shows of Ata Rehman and Hoodbhoy AND OF OTHER Fake Ph.D's:
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Mr. Ata ur Rehman:
Refereing to your recent crap article published in The News International 11/12 August 2012, our reply is as under:
Your objection on this invention and your slandering campaign against this invention is ONLY AND ONLY based on your stubbornness, ignorance and jealousy. I can prove it as follow that what you have said is nothing but a piece of crap that can only be expected from a mentally retarded beast who is burning in Jealousy:
1- You said that Agha is running car w/o external source. This is ur lie. Water has Hydrogen gas and Petrol has same gas too. In petrol car, battery runs fuel pump and in Agha's car the current that is used for fuel pump is used to crack water into gases. So ur slander that it is perpetual machine is false and absurd. His new method is new invention and ABSOLUTELY NOT ELECTROLYSIS. U cannot activate electrolysis in distilled water.
2- You said Agha has no Engineering Degree so he cannot be inventor. This your argument is EXTREMELY shameful because It is absolutely not necessary to have Ph.D or B.E Engg in order to invent. Your this extremely shameful argument can be fully debunked because the biggest inventor of history Thomas Edison was neither a Ph.D nor have B.E Engg. This is fact that most of great inventors were not well versed in theory of sciences. They were just Technicians/Technologists like Agha.
3- In your TV Shows and in ur articles you have frequently declared Agha a Fraud even with out finding any physical fraud in his car that he has demonstrated already in front of many people. It is your total moral bankruptcy that you are mongering slanders of fraud even w/o Proof against that humble inventor. As per Islamic law, You deserve 80 stripes on your back or u bring physical Proof of fraud.
4- At the end of your article, you have said that GOV should give exemplary punishment to Agha. This is again your extremely preposterous claim as you are suggesting punishment against the greatest inventor of mankind history against whom you have no any proof of fraud. In fact Gov must give that exemplary punishment to you because it is you and not Agha who is misleading people and it is you who has proved himself a big slander monger.
5- Truth is this, that Agha is not well versed in theory but yet have brought mother of all inventions. You and your old books have no ability yet to understand this invention. This is ABSOLUTELY NOT ELECTROLYSIS but a new technique. A liter water has energy equal to millions of KW too if u understand what I mean-fusion. You claim that you are Ph.D; yet you do not understand, that in distilled water, electrolysis cannot be activated. Your Ph.D must be investigated if it is not bogus. Because Agha is not well versed in theory, this is why he wrongly introduced his method as electrolysis. IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT ELECTROLYSIS because battery cannot run car through electrolysis.
6- The biggest proof of TRUTH is practical demonstration of invention in front of people which is eye witness through observation. That what Agha has already done. If you are unable to understand that invention, that does not mean it is fraud but its mean, you have yet no ability to understand that invention & so you must educate yourself and updated your old man-made laws and theories as per new invention. Are you Allah? No. Only Allah has complete knowledge. A Ph.D know many things YET DO NOT KNOW EVERY THING. In Agha's system, his invention provides trigger for reaction, then that reaction is almost self-Sustaining. To change it from "Almost Self-Sustaining" to "SUSTAINING", It need periodical push from car battery. But that push is in milliamps and so small that it is less than the current that car radio uses. Ata Rehman. I will not yet disclose secrets of this invention though I know it fully. I just give u hint and if your brain is still young, that will pick it. In his method Agha's team provides trigger to start reaction & after, that reaction can be sustained with very very little current from battery. Consider example of Kerosene lamp. You start/lit it once by a little fire; then that works itself. only you have to add kerosene periodically to continue it. Instead of kerosene of this example in Agha's Kit is needed very little current in milli-amps and more distilled water periodically so that it continues.
7- You also claimed that what Agha has done is already been done by many in past. Here you have told again 100% lie. In past people has blended gas with petrol to reduce cost of Petrol but no one ever succeeded to replace petrol 100% by water. Agha is the first person who has done so and his invention is clear a TRUTH as is Sun on sky. and u will see it.
How many miles per litre of bullshit are you getting from your water kit?
The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it the more it will contract.”
Wow Hamid Mir! I am a happily surprised that the "Engineer" is still out and about. Given his claims of unshackling our nation from its dependence on Arab petrol, and as hinted by you in your Water Kit program, I was afraid that he will be abducted by a combination of agents from Mars/CIA/RAW/Mossad to deprive us of his genius. Allah, terah lakh lakh shukkar hai kai Agha Sahib abhi tak azad hain aur Capital Talk par bukwas kar rahey hain. I have already disconnected my car from the gobar gas it was running on in anticipation of the "Engineer's" water kit that will hit the market in a few months. I personally recommend you for the Nobel Prize for stupidity for year 2012. Get a life, will you?
this a joke yarrrr!! scientists dont debate on media they prove their inventions through demonstration , agar itna hi genius hai tu kisi company say funding lay , kisi company ka demagh kharab hoga kay abhi taak agha waqar say deal nahe final ki ho gi … if his invention is REAL he can make trillions of dollars and he is still talking in the media its been a month now …
and hamid mir saab didnt expect this coming from you , ratings kay elawa bhi hamari thori si izzat rakh layin!
Pakistani nation see every thing with emotions. Looking at comments I feel people are after miracle. Science has no religion, country and race. Agha Waqar's claim is in violation of established laws of physics. No person with any basic knowledge of physics will accept this claim. People here insult great scientists like dr. Hoodbhoy because they break their fools paradise. No wonder Pakistan has gone to dogs.
Stop chasing mirage and get real.
bajay is ke ke agha waqar ki hilp kare us ka rasta rook rhe keya begherat log hai ye sharam ani chai in begherto ko kehtu hai dr .aq khan ko nhi pata ye seyane peda hoye hai sirf gandu parwez
yar in logon ko sunnn ka bht afsooos hota hai.teacher is respected profession.hoooood sb from last 40 years he is going to teach these projects.jelious people these people only teaching wt they they learn from books cz they dnt have created mind.never he know how to speak how jelious even he looose the respect.proudy man.gamato ray..
It is good that Agha didn’t fly a machine through water because our scientists were confused for a long time even at Bumblee bee – according to scientists, bumble bee is doing a FRAUD (should be in jail – if you would ask our scientists) and it can’t fly according to the rules of aerodynamic laws.
AERODYNAMIC LAWS OF FLYING:
“Aerodynamic laws of science clearly states that claims that bumblebee cannot fly. Its body weight is not the right proportion to its wingspan. But Bumblee bee doesn’t know about this law so bee flies anyway.”
Lets face it – scientists are angry because it goes against their theory/laws. So, they are forcing their theory to Agha but only way they could settle this issue is to examine it PRACTICALLY.
His fault is that he is a pure bullshitter. And your fault is that your are a dimwit! You are the type of people who spend their lives masturbating and still have the audacity to ridicule people like professor Hoodbhoy who spent countless years studying, experimenting and generally devoting their lives to science. It can only happen in our society which has become so twisted that everyone is now an expert in any field!
ha bhai scientist ajao zara medaan main zra hum bhi dekhein kitne scientist ho aap …DC 10 volt se 100 volt nahi bunsaktey ….iska matlab ye jo market main UPS jo sale hotey hain ye sab fraud hai pagal banatey hain….jo 12 volts se 100 nahi 240volts banatey hain…or agha sahib ne jo kit invent ki hai definately perfect hai maine tajarba kia hai 100% works hai…or in jahilon ko betha dia hai jinko car ki zarasi bhi knowledge nahi hai….main itni garantee or deta hun k ye car start karne k baad main battery bhi hata dunga or ye car phir bhi start rahe gi….main isliye itna sure hun k main dono scientist se zada or agha waqar jitna jaanta hun car ki tecnology k baarey….ager kuch or pooch hai to poocho…main jawaab dunga oski jaga.
welldone adnan. i like your comments
kaysay kaam kerti hai app kee kit?
Wtf is hamid mir doing???just to get ratings hes making us paks look dumb.Already new york times wrote an article on this saying how dumb pakis and its mainstream media is.I cant stand international bezato anymore :'(
I don't really trust Agha's claim but to bring New York Times as credible source is just stupidity. When did a newspaper who supported Iraq war became a credible source.
hamid meer. app ko mubarek ho ess jessa programme kerni pa. like your programme.
Please read that news you will find the answer about the super power. I think we can find and know what is science in world doing??
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12597811
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jul/31/pri…
AGHA WAQAR SAHB ki body language par ghor kiaa jai too lagtaa hai keh woh ham sabb ko dhokaa dai rahai hain, jiss tarah agha sahb nay current bananay kaa batayaa hai woh process too simple battery kaa hai, aur battry ko charge karnay kai liye d.c kaa istimaal kia giaa hai, jo keh saaf zahir hai woh car etc, electric power se chalay gi, aur aag kal to TOYOTA, MERCEDES, AUR bouht sii vehicles market mein hein jo keh electric current se chal rahi hein,
AGHA SAHB kai dawa ko check krnay kai liye koi lambay choray behs mubahsay ki zarurat naheen hai, jaisa keh hud bhai nay hall tajweez kiaa hai keh vehicle yaa ingine kaa smoke test kar liaa jai too baat wazeh ho jai gii.
hamary duaa bhi hai aur khawahish bhi keh PAKISTAN kaa waqar buland hoo , Aghaa sahb ki baat saheeh ho, Waisay pakistan mein itnay fraudy log hein keh har koi isi catogry kaa hii lagtaa hai,
i i dissagree, i think agha waqar ki body language tells he is very confident on his claim and invention. i believe he is not lying on the fact that he is ready to prove it any where that he can do this
Aren't we just running in a circle? Our scientists have not sorted it yet after all this debate and claims. Dr Pervaiz is still stating that "it's easy to figure out by examining the smoke when Agha's water powered car burns the fuel to verify what is really being used." Funny part is that all this time is gone and that basic test hasn't been done yet. What type of morons we have in my country. Please get over it. Stop debating and take a step further.
Hamid Meer, what are you up to this time? I'm smelling something fishy here. If you want your rating, please there are hundreds of other topics. Go and work with IK and reveal all the victims faces in Wazeeristan who are dying everyday for no one knows what their crime is.
I thought we will have some kind of conclusion this time, but there is no difference in this interview and the previous ones. Himid Mir after waiting for a month you should have concluded this. What is really different than what was said previously…..?
Where is your investigative journalism that can really investigate in the matter and then put an end to the story?
What is it? A big success or a big fraud? I still dont know!
And please don't bring an end to the misery of Agha Sahib, don't bring him back to embarrace him in front of the whole world If you cant prove him right or wrong.
It is good that Agha didn’t fly a machine through water because our scientists were confused for a long time even at Bumblee bee – according to scientists, bumble bee is doing a FRAUD and it can’t fly according to the rules of aerodynamic laws.
AERODYNAMIC LAWS OF FLYING:
“According to aerodynamic laws, the science claims that bumblebee cannot fly. Its body weight is not the right proportion to its wingspan. But Bumblee bee doesn’t know about this law so bee flies anyway.”
Lets face it – scientists are angry because it goes against their theory/laws. So, they are forcing their theory to Agha but only way they could settle this issue is to examine it PRACTICALLY.
i have listened to you agha waqar today, every word from your mouth brother, you are so confident, i believe you, may allah give you complete success.
His fault is that he is a pure bullshitter. And your fault is that your are a dimwit! You are the type of people who spend their lives masturbating and still have the audacity to ridicule people like professor Hoodbhoy who spent countless years studying, experimenting and generally devoting their lives to science. It can only happen in our society which has become so twisted that everyone is now an expert in any field. God help us!
nicely said jahil log hain mehnath bee kisi cheez ka naam hy and mehnath k baghair nothing is going to com
Pakistan Got More Talent Now Motorcycle Run On Water Amazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPbKtORgZBk&fe…
Afsoos hai hood bhai aur dr atta and waheed jaisoon par keh insan honay kay natay say baat to khush ikhlaqi say karein…..lanat hai aisay baday ohdoon par…in the near future yeh sab log chuptay phir rahay hoon gai…i hope from God…..
Aaj mujy is discussion se sabat ho gia hay k hamara mulik din-b-din tanazli ki tarf ku ja rha hy.
Mery bayoo ager gaha ne water kit bna di hy, us k pass univ ki degree ni to kia howa.
Aap sab loog us se jealous ku hoty hain.
Her koi us se ajeeb-ogareeb question kr rhy hain k main canada se study kr k aaya hoon,koi kehta hy main UK se . Janab aap ko Allah pe b yaqeen hy k ni, wo behtar janta hy k kis se kia kaam leena hy.
Koi kehta hy thermodynamics k laws ka is ko ni pata.
Aap sab mujy in questions ka answer de dain
1: Asif ali zardari kis base pe Pakistan ka sadar hy, us ka baap to Quid-a-Azim ko galiayn nikalta tha, Zardari ne to Quide-a-Azim ki Pics apny office se utar de hoi the.
Aap mujy is k Pakistan k sadar hoony ka koi logic koi formula bta sakty hain
2. Rehman malik ko to surat-ul-aklas ni aati, jo k her namaz main pari jati hy, to ye btain, wo foreign minister kis base pe hy, us k muslim hoony aur us k itny bary office ko hold krny ki koi logic hy aap k pass.
Aaap sab degree holders se suggestion hy k aap koi logic dain, aapni ego ko side pe rakh kr.
Ager agha ne choota ya bara kaam kia hay to is main aap loogoon ki Azit kam ni ho gi.
hHHHAAAHHAAAA THESE SCIENTISTS NOT EXAMINED HIS INVENTION BUT PROVING HIM WRONG IS IT JUSTICE?. GUYS YAHOOD BHAI IS THE MAN WHICH THINK THAT DR QADEER IS MECHANIC NOT AN ATOMIC SCIENTIST.
WHY MR WAQEER TELL THEM THE SECRET?
THIS THE SECRET WHICH HE INVENTED.
KEEP UP MR WAQAR WE PRAY FOR YOU.
It is good that Agha didn’t fly a machine through water because our scientists were confused for a long time even at Bumblee bee – according to scientists, bumble bee is doing a FRAUD and it can’t fly according to the rules of aerodynamic laws.
AERODYNAMIC LAWS OF FLYING:
“According to aerodynamic laws, the science claims that bumblebee cannot fly. Its body weight is not the right proportion to its wingspan. But Bumblee bee doesn’t know about this law so bee flies anyway.”
Agha Waqar is wrong But as he said we ve to remain in limit ? ever you guys noted that no body speak sweet even with him so sad
Masla sirf yeh hai k agha waqar aik chotay se college aur pak k chotay se shehr se belong karta hai, agar yehi claim koi harward ya oxford university ka koi student karta to ye saray hamary BUDDAY scientists us ko na sirf mantay bal k tareef kar rahay hotay. This z only jealousy from all these so called great scientists with agha waqar Excluding those who endorse him like dr A . Q khan.
It is good that Agha didn't fly a machine through water because our scientists were confused for a long time even at Bumblee bee – according to scientist it is doing a fraud and it can't fly according to aerodynamic laws.
AERODYNAMIC LAWS OF FLYING:
“According to aerodynamic laws, the science claims that bumblebee cannot fly. Its body weight is not the right proportion to its wingspan. But Bumblee bee doesn’t know about this law so bee flies anyway.”
Guys, Do you understand his logic and invent and what he crying from months ???? mostly of us keep saying “no way to produce or generate energy from only pure water”.
Only we need to understand his tech and his theory. Here I would like to share my understanding what I got from his all interviews and now raising a Question to you all.
How do we getting DC power in cars and using lights, cars Air-conditions and all other electric equipments like Radio, CD player, Car TV, power chargers etc. and this happening almost 2 years continue from a small battery?? Yes it is happening because there is power generator dynamo installed to charge the battery.
The same principle being used by Agha waqar. He using DC voltage in water kit to break water into oxygen and hydrogen gases. “oh it need high voltage” Answer. “so he using a voltage converter” easily available in the markets. Then through his invent kit generating hydrogen gas to use as fuel that is known and acceptable to all scientists.
The matter is only this people don’t want understand his logic, irritating from him even don’t want listen his voice. Many of my brothers only going through theories not by his points what he rising.
“Last but not least”
Car will run by using water (hydrogen gas) Gas getting by a process (process will be running through using DC voltage by car bettery+dynamo. He needs only DC voltage to run a “Process” where hydrogen gas will be generating from water. When car will run battery will recharge by dynamo so it is a cycle process. Nothing is “Allah Deen ka chiraag” Agha Waqar is right and loyal Pakistani we should support him.
Nice comment bro
Thanks
please always support to people who trying to do something for Nation.
Regards
Rizzi
Brother agha waqar is right and the problem with him s that he can't speak fluent English and he s not rich personality that's why every zalil insan us ki tazleel kar raha hey or wo sharif admi khamoshi sey sun raha hey.
Oodhey bhai Sb u are doctor and scientist and aged person as well but have no manner to speak to a gentleman and for this you have to go to school and got training for mannerism . Shame on you.
Tum keh Rahey ho ye shakhs, fraud, jhoot, nonsense etc but behave yourself scientist Sb. Bolney ki tameez seekho.
Agha waqar is right he is providing 12v from bettery to inverter and got 100 volt current and then do electrolysis to break hydrogen ion and oxygen ion then produce OHH gas which goes to engine and used for combustion and hence engine run that battery will recharge by dynamo fixed in car to charge the battery. That's t.
These scientists are perhey likhey jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahil.
pagal insaan 100 volt current …..ye kia bakwas hy …current ka unit ampere hy parhe likay jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahil ….inverter ka kam step up karna hotha hy jahil insssaaaan kahan se parey ho bewakoof kahin ke inerter interconverts ac and dc ….aur tum kia bakwas kar rahy ho ye wahee baaat ke jahil ke saney chup rena saheee
Nice explaination, Thank you
hammid mir tum aik bohat barey panchodh admi ho ,,,tumhey awam ko itney barey level per miss gaid kerney kay juramm mein umer kad ker dena chahiyea or rozana 10 korre laganey chheyean ta ka phir pakistan mein sab ko iss juram ka nowlig ho or phir koie anker awam ka waqat or payssa zaya na ker sakey …u r a therd class person ,,,
aaalllaaaa hamid mir is a stupid he is misguiding jahil awam of pakistan …..agha waqar cant even spell a name of university …
So kindly you keep on spelling the names of universities…. lets see how many great inventions you do afterwards…………
Desperate souls…..
ADMIN …gud idea to upload show in one clip…
Kash Agha Waqar ap sindhi na hotay or ye water kit sindh mai nae banae hoti tu aaj ye hamid mir ap ko yahan beth k salute karta or sab yahi kehtay k ap sae ho….
but hum sab ki duain ap k sath hain inshallah ap kamyab hongay…aameen…
Well brother, Hoodbhoy is technically a 'sindhi' as well and so is Dr. Atta ur Rehman. Dr. Shaukat is a pathan. As for Hamid Mir, he was the one who introduced Agah Waqar.
Please stop playing victim card here. science has no ethnicity.
waqqar well said bhai apreciate ur comment ….wat people here are try to fighting thy have no reasons yaar …why fight reason and comment like human saree qom aik waqar ki baat ko teeek nai karsakee
Agha Waqar is a fraud.I am an Engineer the laws of Thermodynamics not permits the process what he is trying to proof.He is such an uneducated person.I do not know why media is wasting their time.
mohsinnuet yar another great guy u are i appreciate u all of people here are the agha waqars qasam se thy are reall jahil guys he says mai resonance kartha hun pir us mai ionization pir free enrgy latha hun wat is this yara
agha waqar……..marey duaa ha ki allah app ko kamyabi day marey bhai. khush rahoooo.
HAMID MEER SAHIB, thank you very much for that programme, respect
first law of thermodynamics violated big time utter nonsence by Mr agha waqar
yara u are great guy and all of the other are big big jahil wat a country yaar thy even dont try to see ke he is fraud he told my university nust ke i l show up lekin he didnt he is fraud
Let me tell you one very simple thing……………… we should appreciate Agha Waqar if he has managed to run a Car 50% less expensive than CNG or Petrol. The discussion whether he used something with water or not is irrelevant.
My heart is with Agha Waqar! I request everyone to pray for his success! I wish, he proves his claim true! Let us all pray for his success!
Best of luck, Engineer Agha Waqar! Go ahead, the Nation is with you!!!
hamid i really appriciate you for listining o us and doing this fallow up programme on agha waqar. thank you sir
o yousaf bhai pehlay ja ke daiko ke ajj jo us ne interview mai kaha ke i make electrolysis to make hydrogen gas jis ko mai as a fuel use kartha hun …..electrolysis is twice mehanga aur app kia kahthy hain ke 50 % sastha o bhai khyal karo ..matric tho ki hy ke nai
Jab Waqar 15 bar keh chuka hai k uss ny Electrolysis ka cheap economic way old theories utilize kr k nikal liya hai to aap sb ko yaqeen q nahi aa raha?
Poor bloke!
read the article in new york times
“Craving Energy and Glory, Pakistan Revels in Boast of Water-Run Car”
read the article in new york times
"Craving Energy and Glory, Pakistan Revels in Boast of Water-Run Car"
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/world/asia/boas…
"Dr. vs an Engineer". typical!
Q. How can a bloody ordinary Engineer advents thing like that when honorable and qualified "Doctors" are sitting in Universities.
Answer. Because they are just F**** sitting there and treating up-rising students like the way they treated Engineer Aga Waqar. Look at the attitude of Dr. Perwaiz xxx, does he look educated? My A***
Well Done Waqar, we solutes your efforts at this stage
You are right Fonline, these so called Drs, got these 9 to 5 jobs on SAFARASH, good pay good accomodation, car etc. Practically they do not do any thing just reading theories of others and then repeat them like parrot in front of their students except few good ones
jo bee kehtha hy i can debond water he is big fool ….o bhai waqar sahab ne kaha i make use of hydrogen gas through electrolysis so u can get it only if u break h-o-h bond in water wat u are saying @tasfic is the dipolar intermolecular forces kuch tho khyal karo mamla bara nazuk hy
sir, gee i did a lot of research in this domaine. so its not foolish, i know whats i'm saying. i'm not living in Pakistan and not trying to fool anyone in the world. my devices are under process of patents with the help of France Govt.
gud then if ur devices are under still to go permit …try to stay calm because u might well end up waqar sahab .
ye aik fraud tha shuru se mujay patha tha i m a scientist in nust i have no hard feelings for him magar hood bhaai ko is program mai ghusa is liye aya ke he was making foolish comments like free energy athe hy usko resonate kartha hun pir 10 volts ko 100 volt mai convert kartha hun i mean its shoking it real shoking ye video daik kar my hopes are zero no way ye admee jahil hy he is out of his mind how can u step up dc voltage bhai you are absolutely zero …… aur itnee asanee step up kia hy ke sarey awam bewakoof and i m shoked most of comments are like ap log science pariye tho sahee hum koi waqar bhai ke dushman hain or wat …….he is just way too forward ………bhai free energy ka zikar kartha hy pir max planck bee atha hy wat is this non sense
Bhai agr aap scientist hyn to insaniyyat sy to na niklyn hood bai ko de bond kia jay to 100 jahil produce ho jyngy itni bd tamizi koi kanjer hi kr sakta hy jitni isny aur Attaurrehman ny ki aik sada c bat meri bhi sun lyn agr ye aadmi fraud hy to 2 mah ho gay kisi sainsdan ny isko practically nokout q ni kia simple: apna pani lykr aayn 20 ltr virgin gari layn Waqar sy apni mojoodgi me kit fit krwayn gari chalayn 20 ltr pani myn Waqar kitna carbide apky samny milay ga? 20 ltr pani consume kryn result qoum k samny rakhyn ye b sainsdan hyn aik aadmi itna bara challenge day raha hy aur hamary bary bary so called scientists usy pratically ghalat proove krny ki bajay ghilazat bukty hyn lakh X lakh X lakh X infinity bar lanat in parhy likhy jahilon per jo khud bhi Pakistan ko koi retun against there education ni day saky
o bhai he was invited to nust chor ka bacha fraud hy he didnt show up .u are also one of those jahil awam jo ye samajthy hain ke ham shortcut mar len ge try go to youtube agha waqar ka engine youtube video se bantha hy hahahahahaha
ap ke itnay barey taqreer ka matlab ye hy ke aik fraud admee ko achee tarah treat karo wah bhai u are really majrooh …..yaad rahay aik aalim aur jahil mai bohath bara farq hy and u r same case
ha bhai engineer ajao zara medaan main zra hum bhi dekhein kitne scientist ho aap …DC 10 volt se 100 volt nahi bunsaktey ….iska matlab ye jo market main UPS jo sale hotey hain ye sab fraud hai pagal banatey hain….jo 12 volts se 100 nahi 240volts banatey hain…or agha sahib ne jo kit invent ki hai definately perfect hai maine tajarba kia hai 100% works hai…or in jahilon ko betha dia hai jinko car ki zarasi bhi knowledge nahi hai….main itni garantee or deta hun k ye car start karne k baad main battery bhi hata dunga or ye car phir bhi start rahe gi….main isliye itna sure hun k main dono scientist se zada or agha waqar jitna jaanta hun car ki tecnology k baarey….ager kuch or pooch hai to poocho…main jawaab dunga oski jaga.
tum ye btao ke tum kis mu se meri baat ka jawab daitay ho zara daiko dc volt ko kaisay step karthy hain bas aur kuch nai ye btao bas srf ye ……
Yes, its possible to de-bond the Water into Hydrogen and Oxygen with very little electric energy. I already done these types of experiments with all the measurements. In my experiment my device consumed 1.37 volts on 0.5 Ampare current. its 0.685 Watt. My device is able to de-bond one lettre water in one minute and its a huge quantity. 2nd thing its a simple electrolysis process and not breaking any thromo-dynamics law. In other words energy is stored in the form of water by Alllah Subhanho, and any one who use his knowledge can utilise this energy source. 3rd thing Agha Waqar's model still usese alot of electrique energy, and he my further fine tune it.
Assalam-0-Alakum
in 2008 when i was student of mechancial scienc in canada, we did alot of experiment about HHO, and i m 100% sure it is possible to run car with hho+fuel (any fuel) but only with HHO impossible. i will say to all my Pakistani borthers and sister please do not waste ur money, i m still trying to get some source of energy which we can bring in use. from 2008 to still i did not get any way but i m still trying i visit many countries USA, CANADA, Japan etc, alot of car in these countries with hho+fuel mixture, but only with water i can believe, youtube is full of these videos and Mr. waqar just copy those HHO cells and trying to fool People of Pakistan. just go to Youtube write in search bar HHO CELL or how to build HHO CELL. anybody can make that kit at home free of charge but those kits does not work. or it can increas ur fuel average 10% to max 15%.i make more than 10 kits like Mr.waqar but just waste of time and money. please please do not waste money or do not believe Like Mr. waqar People.
Allah bless all Pakistanis
Pakistan Zindabad.
Dear Mr. Pakzindabad, you keep on you highly funded, high-level research… for years and years to come….. Who is stopping you? There are thousands out there like you who are doing the same for years upon years, with the same outcomes that you are relating here. Why you ppl wanna put ban on the research of otherz if according to your limited knowledge, something is not fitting in?
On every invention of science, ordinary minds have startled like you ppl are startling and rejecting it altogether.
There is a simple litmus test and my suggestion to Dr. Hoodbhoy is also to kindly take the pains of investigating the boy's water kit and the analysis of the car's exhaust (which is too naive acc. to him) instead of bellowing on Mr. Agha with allegations of fraud and non-sense.
After viewing the Capital Talk Show I would like to say that:
1- Agha Waqar donot get depressed. Every inventor faces such abusive cricism
2- The loss of temper by Hood Bhai is understandable:
-having taught for decades he or any of his students could not do any breakthrough worth mentioning.
-he was the one who opposed our nuclear program when he was young
- his comments on any talk show are always negative, creates feeling of worthlessness for Pakistan amonst the youth
-his calling you fraud only on assumtion and not inviting you to his lab for the test suggests that he is furious that how a diploma holder can say or do something like that.
- 80% of good ideas normally comes from the people who do the things themselves and not from the Top mangers and scientists
- present stage at which your experiment is probably cannot be called a breakthrough and "New to the World" product, but we must put this to test by a team of scientists
-when a child thought that steam can have the power to push things, his mother must have had slapped him and said " chaa pee te bakwaas na kar"
Please note that many questions which arise need to be answered for which you should work:
1- For how many miles at a stretch say 500 km have you tested the car on Hydrogen.
2- Heating of Engine if it is above normal how can it be controlled?
3- What will be the effect on the batteries since I believe (being a non engineer)that battery will be used constantly and may need be changed after short intervals.
4- What will happen if the speed of car is high, will the hydrogen being produced will be enough to support the speed.
5- Get in touch with an automobile engineer to test and to usel jargons so that experts donot call you illiterate.
6- If you add a name like "James" "Smith" "EDward", Kennedy,Bush or Obama as your partner, nobody will doubt you even if you are a fraud.
7- Please note that it you have achieved what you claim, it is the first step and constant research will help you create a real product in the long run.
8- This is for all Pakistanis that Waqar has niether cheated not he is a hero unless we check and worth mnetioning scientists are involved in the testing.
9- Pakistan has the talent but we severely lack in ATTITUDE, we donot have faith in our people and country, even if Waqar is working on a myth he is better than those who believe that they cannot create any thing. Out of Box thinking needs to be inculcated in the people to be creative.
DR pavaz to ak number ka ghutya shakhs hy kia kisi insan sy es lahjy main baat ki jati hy i hate him
o meray bhayeyun this agaha sahib dont know even the unit of energy contiously insisting on volt if he is right just ask him one queseton how long this car will run without external source and is 100% efficiency is possible although his theory demands at least 140% efficiency bcz law of thermodynamics says energy can not be created or destroyed but only can be transferred to other form of energy but there will be always some losses.and he is claiming that he is generatin the H2 with using current and this H2 is capable of running the engine and producing the same amount of current this is totally nonsense.
isaac newton was studying Law from Trinity College when pledge stopped his studies, from which University he Graduated?? Answer Plz
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Steve Jobs never graduated from College
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This is by no mean a Criteria he is not applying for a graduation in your University, He is not your student, and physics don't belong to your family Hoodboy..
DR A Q KHAN JIS NE VO KARNAMA SAR INJAAM DIA JO KOI NA DAY SAKA USKI B MUKHALFAT IN NAAM NEHAAD SCIENTS NE KI THE IN ULUUUUUUUUUU K PATHUN KO YE TAKLEEF HAI K HAM NE QOOM KA ITNA PASSA BARBAD KR K KHUCH NA KR SAKAY OR AGA WAQAR KA QUSOOR SIR YE HAI K VO AK GHREEB AADMI HAI LEKIN MEHNAT OR ZAHANT ZRURI NAI AMEER K PAS HE HO,PARVIZ HOOD BAI ULLU KA PATHA JAHIL HAI USKO TO BAT KRNY KI TAMEEZ B NAI HAI ILM TO TEHZEEB SIKHAATA HAI.DR A Q KHAN K SAMNY YE SB BOONAY HAIN UK K SAMNY INKI KOI HASEAT NAI YE SB CHOOR BEGHARAT HAIN.AGA WAQR KUTTY BHUNKTY REHTY HAIN AP MEHNAT JARI RAKHO IN KA HUQA PANI BAND KRAO PURI QOOM AP K SATH HAI.
bat to such hai magar bat hai ruswai ke,,, agha waqar sub pay sabqat na lay jaye is bat ke taklif sub ko . ye log khud kam ni krtay kisi ko krnay b ni datay, agar agha waqar bna sakta hai to phir fayeda pori qoam ko hai, nam pakistan ka roshan hoga,, man latay hain waqar sab nai paray likhay , ap final result ko dekho,, ,,,
Actually pakistani can not see anyother pakistani brother having fame and success and going up , this is a root problem sadly
نہیں کہا جا سکتا کہ آخر کار اس مسلے کا کیا حل نکلے گا مگر آغا وقار صاحب جس قدر اعتماد سے بات کرتے ہیں اس کے مقابلے میں سائنسدانوں کے لہجے سے اعتماد کی بجائے ایس لگتا ہے کہ ان کے علم میں کچھ کمی آ جائے گی اگر آغا وقار اپنے تجربے میں کامیاب ہو گیا
یار وہ میدان میں آنے کو تیار ہے تو تم لوگ بھی اس کے ساتھ جاو اور ہر چیز چیک کر لو یہاں پر جذباتی ہو کر اپنی اخلاقیات کا مظاہر ہ کیوں کر رہے ہیں
دعا ہے کہ اللہ تعالی آغا وقار کے اعتماد کا مان رکھیں تا کہ پاکستان کا مان بھی رہ جائے
آغا وقار صاحب الله آپ کا وقار بلند کرے . آمین
پیارے الله آپکو کامیابی عطا فرماے . آمین
آپ ان فزکس کے رٹا لگانے والے ماسٹروں کی بولتی بند کر دیں . جو آپکو فراڈ فراڈ تو کہتے ہیں، مگر دلیل دینے اور اخلاق سے خالی ہیں،
آغا صاحب آپ امید پاکستان ہو. بس ہمت نہ ہارنا .
–انشا الله . یہ لوگ کل کو اپنا منہ چھپاتے پھریں گے. انشاالله–
I am surprised why Hoodbhoy a so called scientist was continuously insulting a person who was patiently listening to two idiots. Waqar may be wrong or fraud but one should be give n a chance to prove what he has invented and if he fails to prove then you have every right to say him fraud.
First of all, Agha Waqar you keep working if you believe what you have done is right..
The laws of Physics has been made by Humans And Allah has not stopped blessing knowledge on world after that..
And secondly! Agha Waqar may be weak in conversation as compared to those Intellectual Idiots who are like old doctors and Army Generals.The difference between these two are
Mulla Ki Azaan Aur Mujahid ki Azaan Aur
We should appreciate Agha Waqar and encourage him at least somebody is brave enough to do something, These old men are…. what i say they are teachers otherwise i was on verge of saying something…
KEEP IT UP AGHA WAQAR
WE ARE WITH YOU
I am with Mr. Agha because at least he has given us some light of hope
Carry on AGHA
yaar simple se baat hai check karu ! 2 hours ka kam hai ! agar theek kam karti hai to fit hai! simple ! 2+2=4 wali baat hai !
AGHA WAQAR NEVER SAID HE USE WATER AS A FULE HE SAID HYDROGEN AS FUILE I AGRY THAT ITS POSSIBAL BCOZ MANY TIME SINCE CHANGE HIS BASIC THIURY WHEN SOME ONE PRACTICALLY PROVEAND IF AGHA CHALLENGE TO EVERY ONE THEN Y NOT THIS PEOPLE ACCEPT AGAHA CHALLENGE …….. I LOVE AGHA WQAR AND I AM WITH AGHA WAQAR
He is realy bastared who is criticseing for nothinging …Agha sab saying come and check wat ever you want to check….simply barking only fraud…fraud…kaminey come and check…..
agha waqar please carry on god help u us
After watching the program, some points are presented for further discussion :
1. Agha Waqar's scientific knowledge is limited but there are example in history that some discoveries were made accidentally
2. He is not trying to fool any one. He is sincere in what he is trying to do.
3. Instead of raising questions on his scientific education, his equipment and process involved be examined immediately. No one has done this yet. GIK institute or some other reputable university should rip his machine.
4. It seems his machine would not be economically viable.
Dr.Pervaiz is totaly stupid person he dont know how talk with peoples he using
words like baqwas.jahil, nonsence etc etc. to bad for him.
Hamid Mir
Why are you wasting time on such programs?
Agha Waqar is not a Engineer but may be a 3 years diploma holder from Technology college khairpur mirs.
I think he even did not read physics and chemistry of B.Sc.level
It is also objectionable to allow such a low level educated person to make unreasonable discussion.
It is better to call some Professors fron SALC khairpur or SU Jamshoro and If they satisfy with Agha claim then next time include naional level professors in discussion.
I am a senior scientist myself working in different institutes of europe since 1988 and know very well that how new inventions are made.
ITS IS ALSO POSIBLE THAT there may be some thing in Agha kit that he himself may not understand because of his low education level but when real scientist will look into his kit then the funtioning rason may become clear.
isaac newton was studying Law from Trinity College when pledge stopped his studies, from which University he Graduated?? Answer Plz
The biggest Technologist of the era
Steve Jobs never graduated from College
Bill Gates rusticated from Harvard
This is by no mean a Criteria he is not applying for a job in your company, A total foolish you are talking.. He may be wrong but University is not a criteria….
You, and not Agha, are talking non-sense. Shame on you Mr. SENIOR SCIENTIST, if a diploma holder, less than B.Sc. qualified (acc. to your HIGH standards) and non-worthy-of-having-grabbed-this-attention person has invented this technology while HIGHLY-PAID scientists like you (and unfortunately me) are only fretting about his….
I reckon that you ppl would be the very 1st ones to benefit from his revolutionary technology….
i dont know why theses people dont accept it if agha is using something in it that clearly he's saying its electricity so why u people saying its fraud leave him make it if u paying 100 rupees for a one petrol liter then why u dont pay 50 rupees for one liter of agha energy whatever he's using to get this energy why u dont let him to make it
Pervez hood bhoy is our country,s asset and the world is thankful to him for his contributions. He is obsolutely right that this guy should be sent to jail immediately .
Pervaiz hood bahi is 100 % stupid, I was fond of him, but when I listen his way of talking
he is more than jealous.
He so called scientist even dont know H2O (Water) can be break into H (Hydrogen) and Oxygen with the help of electricity.
But problem here is how much electricity required , it means what is the cost of required electricity(input) and what is cost of output (Hydrogen).
If we spend more cost on input then output then it is not feasible.
But if Aga did this then he did a great job.
We have to motivate him and shut the mouth of so called scientist.
One most important thing is
If a person belongs to the field of Physics, It need not be fully aware of other discipline of science.
Science Koi gudi gudy da khaeel ni.
Be +ve and do +ve.
your little knowledge of science amazes me…
no one is denying the fact that water can be converted to hydrogen and then used as fuel.
the problem is he is only using 10v battery to produce a frikkin 13kw ?
every scientitst is talking about this phenomenone. absolutely ridiculous reasons
using resonance to step up 10v to 100? wtf man
All the proofs Agha Waqar mentioned in this program are given here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agha_Waqar%27s_water…
Hoodbhoy is just denying as he don't want to go beyond theories he studied 40 years ago. This man is not a scientist, he is telling a simple procedure according to his experience. But Hoodbhoy is outrageous & behaving out of propotion. He can not explain the mechanics & chemical reactions. Every car has a battery so there is no extra expense. Only thing is to calculate its economics, if it is feasible or not.
This man is gentleman who did not returned the same words to Hoodbhoy(Idiot).
I know Hoodbhoy will say " oh he is using acid in water or so & so". He is a PHd scientist talking to a naive person challenging him for his science education.
IDIOT Hoodbhoy has not right to insult him.
RIP Science ;[
*facepalm
Agha Waqar
Never mind the so-called scientist. What is their contribution for Pakistan except my hero Dr. A Q Khan who has appreciated your efforts.
Please carry on as it is an establish fact that genius peoples always have jealous.
They just want to get your formula by irritating you.
M Pathan but m openlys yifgng thsi The pple whom rcritising AGha waqar
they r cristing him jsu bczz he is POOR SINDHI
Alwys discmination wid sindhi, balcoh, pashtoon, bangooli's(71) Mohajir
By so called BIG SOOBA, , DILW ALY BIG HEARTED pple of PAUNJAB
O bhi Khuda ka khoof kro pure science k topic ko maaf kr do Bhi jaan .
You are plain stupid!
Mr orakzai I am disagree with ur style 2 give favour to agha waqar.Yes I also in favour of agha waqar to the extent that he must be given chance to prove his claim,irrespective of the fact that his claim is according to the prevelent laws and theories or other wise.if he is mixing something in water or not,if his kit is working correctly and saving expenses of ur car,bus,truck then tomorrow all of us will use his water kit in our car,even dr houd boy and other scientists.but if his kit will not work,he will be rejected forever by all the propels of Pakistan,even mr orakzai and all our Sindhi babies will reject him.
Thnxx 4 atleast favouring n suporting him
)
OH bai jan kisi sindhi PhD in physics say poch lo aur wo Mahesh milani punjab say hay?? jis nay 5million ki offer ki tab ap ka poor sindhi kider tha?
His fault is He is not belongign frm any Jageerdar wader family
he is not studnt of ZABIST, LUMS, atau rehman ect ect
In west pple n their Govt n msot Importntly civil society apprecite pple who wants do smthgn Gud n extra Ordinary for their country
Atleast u shud appreciite his aim n Moto 2 Run all vehicle on Water sod at he can save trillions of dollar of our country
SHAME ON U N ALL THOSE
Hamari society my bardasht or apprecite krny ka jazba khatam ho gaya hy
is liyee zalalat bharee zindgee guzar rhy hy
Agha Waqar my apki invention ki nhi
Ap k AIM ko salute rkta hu
I 100% agree with you. If Waqar had been a student of some famous university then they would have promoted this project to every possible extent but right now, as Hamid Mir said, NUST ppl are allergic to Agha Waqar.
I look forward to the day when these ppl, Dr. Hoodbhoy included, will Beg this guy to include them in his revolutionary project (to gain petty materialistic benefits). And I am also looking forward to the day when Pakistan will be a self-sufficient country just due to his technology that is bound to revolutionize the most-modern industry. I bet that all the super powers will soon be after him whom we are rejecting (like several other geniuses) and agar inn sab Jahilon ka yehi discouraging attitude raha to wo isay lay bhi urain gay.
These brats are not realizing the fact k iss technology ka itna simple hona hi iss ka asli powerful point hai, warna expensive solutions to already bohat say hain. The fact that he has utilized all the old/existent theories to come up with this revolutionary technology is the main point. These theories were all there, why didn't these complaining GENIUSes utilized them to give some break through all their lives?
I think why NUST people are allergic with agha waqar, they want there international repute and recognition in science and technology
how idiot is hamid mir
aaj me hamid mir ki scienci kam aqli ka kael ho gya hon
snowleopard.
brother watch your words please, he is not …….. what you are saying. i respect him a lot and i am thankfull that he has done fallow up programme on that issue as every pakistani is concern about it and agha waqar can effect our whole nation, please my humble request that watch your words before writing some thing. hamid is THE most honest anchores of pakistan and we should resect honest people in pakistan.
aagha waqar.. aik intehai jahil insaan hai.. I'm an engineer and can make same water kit at home by mixing some type of ingredients with Water.. In the begining, he was claiming that I am running a car on a water but now he is saying that I am making hydrogen with water and then utilizing it in engine. O bhai.. ye kon c scinece maari hai… Professional engineers issi liye tu iss per garam hai kei iss nei airif water sei hee kesay banali..
aur second jo iss ney reference diya hai black radiation kaa, ye tu federal board ki 10 class ki book mei bhi hai, iss sey aagha waqar kiya prove kerna chahta thaa? Who is deniying with this report and what you are taking with this ? I cannot understand his logic..
After watching his show, I finalize that he is totally fake and dumb person. He has no respect of professional teachers and engineers of pakistan and hopefully he is exposed very soon. Inshallah
U Dam fool ,, callign urself engneer's
Dear u can b everythgn but in my opinion u Shud 1st be a Human
His fault is He is not belongign frm any Jageerdar wader family
he is not studnt of ZABIST, LUMS, atau rehman ect ect
In west pple n their Govt n msot Importntly civil society apprecite pple who wants do smthgn Gud n extra Ordinary for their country
Atleast u shud appreciite his aim n Moto 2 Run all vehicle on Water sod at he can save trillions of dollar of our country
SHAME ON U N ALL THOSE
Hamari society my bardasht or apprecite krny ka jazba khatam ho gaya hy
is liyee zalalat bharee zindgee guzar rhy hy
Agha Waqar my apki invention ki nhi
Ap k AIM ko salute rkta hu