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Kal tak with Javed Chaudhry [Kehte hain jis ko inqelaab…nara hai intekhaab] – 23rd August 2012

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  • Truth only

    The Qustion is :

    Where an ordinary person stands, and where pakistan is reached now ?

    Who else could be held responsible for it than pml-n, ppp and mqm ?

    They had been in power for the last many years.

    They could not succeed to deliver any thing +ve to the Nation.

    Rather they added in the misery of the people.

    WHAT REVOLUTION they are talking about NOW, It is so funny and absurd on their part to talk about REVOLUTION. one can just say lolxxxxxx about it.

    Damn it ! They had Moooooooooooooooooooooooore than enough time & terms to bring a revolution, if they were honest or sincere to Pakistan! BUT in fact they were busy in improving their own business empires and filling up the swiss banks accounts.

    Had they only, even 0.1% of their conscious left ALIVE, had they ever really felt regrets to, what they have done to our Pakistan OR brought back our stolen money from abroad and had requested to be pardoned OR had they showed a lil bit of SPORTSMAN SHIP by just leaving the stage free to the true, honest and loyal new comers, Only then could have been better and appreciable and the Nation could have forgiven them and given them a safe passage.

    BUT the way they are behaving till NOW, proves that their souls are made of Satanic instincts and they do deserve to be drowned deep in the Indian Ocean.

    A unanimous cry from the core of the hearts of Pakistani Nation for IMRAN KHAN

    Cheetti borien wei Tabiba nai taan assan marr gei aan ………inhaan zalmaan ne te sadi baas kera ditti ae.

    If you want to save PAKISTAN and to save ISLAM vote for the TRUTH FULL man

    ********************** IMRAN KHAN *********************

  • malik32

    imran ki papularti khatam karni ha tow ppp,pmln,mqm, 3no ko chahiya ki 3 kam kar dan….no 1…ak jasa talimi nizam………,no 2 ,sayasat sa azad police……….., no 3..unoin concil ka nizam la ayan………………………….nahi tow ho jaya gi balay balay…pher imran awa hi awa………I LOVE IMRAN……

  • laddoo

    amir an sarfraz are hoti di khor

    chawals have no respect for the guru the great Imran khan

    lakhb di lanat on both of them but I am scared fthey will fight over sharing the lanant coz they both want full lakh lanant

  • laddoo

    Sarfraz and Amir are both Patented lantees, maha chawal, could never do any good for the nation.


    get lost n never show up agian

    • Akramalam

      You are right

  • m_swati

    Sarfaraz Nawaz and Amir Sohail are the people with incomplete desires.These two have been controversial figures in cricket.Sarfaraz always speak against Imran.To criticize someone in positive manner is not bad but the baseless allegations got no space in real world.PML N must have made some promises with Amir …as he had little sucess in cricket, commentary….etc.

  • chaudry

    war heros 1965

    I only came to know of Maj-General Akhtar Malik when my father told me that a Pakistani Maj-general was about to cut off the logistical supply route of the Indian army and achieve victory but was replaced with drunken bastard Yahya Khan. Yahya allowed the Indian to regroup and they went on to attack Lahore, what a travesty to let such a thing happen.

    I only got to know of his name on this forum and learnt that he was creating havoc in Akhnoor by traveling in a helicopter and the Indian army was in disarray but Ayub Khan replaced him with his favorite and the war changed shape. Here are a couple of article's about the incident.

    Operation Grand Slam -DAWN Magazine; November 27, 2005

    MODERN day war complicates rather than solves anything. A country goes to war either to defend its sovereignty in case of attack, or to overwhelm an adversary for political or territorial/material gains.

    The War in 1965 was undertaken by General Ayub not for the first reason. Similarly, Hitler started WWII in 1940, Suharto annexed Eastern Timor in 1975, Gen Galteiri occupied Falkland Islands in 1982, and Saddam invaded Kuwait in 1990 — all for personal glory and political gains. Bush invaded Iraq on March 19, 2003, for the black gold.

    In 1965, the plan ‘Operation Gibraltar' involved sneaking a mixed force of 70,000, trained and regulars, into Indian-held Kashmir and invoke a general uprising in the local populace. The general feeling in the army high command was that Indians had no stomach of warfare and were no match for the superior. The war plan originated in the Foreign Office. The D-day was set for August 5, 1965.

    Military high command took it to be as one blow, limited and confined operation, forgetting that war is not an isolated act and once started, it cannot be confined by time or space. Secondly, against defined and proclaimed logic, the military in Pakistan had taken over the political direction of the war.

    Our scope is limited to the operation conducted on the Kashmir front under Maj-General Akhtar Malik where, given the opportunity and time, Pakistan could have dictated terms to India on other fronts (‘unexpectedly') opened later by India. But it was not to be. Much has been written about the change in command in the 1965 War, when late Maj-General Akhtar Hussain Malik, Commander 12 Division which had the responsibility for Jammu and Kashmir, was replaced by Maj. Gen. Yahya Khan, Commander 7 Div, and Akhnur was let off the hook, thereby saving the Indian forces a huge embarrassment.

    Discussing the initial plans of ‘Operation Gibraltar', Ayub had put his finger at Akhnur across river Tawi, on the sand model asked: “But why don’t you go for the jugular?” General Malik asked for more money and men and Ayub readily agreed. (Altaf Gauhar, Ayub Khan Pakistan’s First Military Ruler’s Sange-meel Publications 1998 p.332)

    The attack on Akhnur was given the code name ‘Operation Grand Slam’, to be launched after the ‘Operation Gibraltar'. Gen Akhtar Malik was assigned this task as he knew the area like the back of his hand, and he was a bold and audacious commander.

    Gen. Malik had already captured Chamb on September 1, and was well poised to go for Akhnur on September 2, 1965 when he was relieved of command in a most bizarre mysterious manner, defying common sense and logic. Before Musa flew Malik back from the front, General Malik had offered his services to fight under Yahya’s command to take Akhnur.

    General Musa, the C-n-C, flew with Gen Yahya on the front on September 2, 1965 to replace General Malik who would not hand over charge otherwise. Yahya was specifically asked by Musa not to advance. A pause of 48 hours was enough for Indian forces to regroup and blunt the Pakistani advance. The Indians also opened another front on Lahore, thus spreading Pakistan Forces thin along the western border. Having lost the initiative, now Pakistan was fighting for its survival. One can lose a battle or even a war, but in Kashmir at that time, it was a victory lost.

    The prevailing view in GHQ was that Gen. Ayub had lost his nerve. (Altaf Gauhar p. 334) Shortly before his death, Bhutto had expressed similar views about Ayub, saying he used to panic during crises. (Col. Rafiuddin Bhutto kay akhri 323 din, Jang Publications 1992 p.61) Bhutto observed that Pakistan Army had yet to produce another fighting general of Akhtar Malik’s calibre and had Malik been allowed to advance in Chhamb-Jurian Sector, he would have played havoc with the Indian Forces. (Col Rafiuddin p.66)

    After the 1965 War, the talk on change of command in Kashmir became taboo but with death of Gen Musa, the subject was discussed threadbare. The ISPR floated the idea that the change of command in 1965 was pre-planned. Brig. Gul Hassan (late Lt. Gen. and Army Chief), at that time, Director Military Operations, in his memoirs, denied the existence of any such planned change of command during the execution of Operation Grand Slam.

    Secondly, Brig. Gul Hassan said he knew Gen. Malik well enough to say that he (Gen. Malik) would never have accepted a command for 24 hours for such a daunting assignment. What happened behind the scenes may never be known. (Lt. Gen Gul Hassan Akhri Commander-in-Chief, Dost Publications Isd. 1999 p.231-234)

    Gen. Ayub published his biography Friends Not Master in 1967 but he failed to cover the 1965 War, as it was not a glorious chapter of his life. He tried to gloss over history.

    As soon as Yahya took over from Musa as C-n-C in September 1966, he posted out Gen Malik on a CENTO assignment in Turkey. General Akhtar Malik died in 1969 in a car crash in Turkey. It could have been a target-assassination. General Malik had met the Jordanian Ambassador a few days earlier in Ankara. The Ambassador had asked General Malik to help upgrade the Jordanian Army, a job that was accepted by the latter.

    It could be Mossad for Israel didn’t want Jordan to acquire the services of a professional general (according to an ex-Army Officer who asked not to be revealed). Israel has been deeply involved in anything that affects its security, especially its neighbours. In 1980, Mossad had eliminated an Egyptian nuclear physicist, Dr Yahia El Meshad, in Paris who had been helping Iraq in setting up its nuclear plant. (Claire Hoy & Victor Ostrovsky By Way of Deception Stoddart Publishing Co.Ltd. Toronto 1990 p.23)

    According to officers who fought on Kashmir front, had General Malik been allowed to capture Akhnur, Ayub would not have ignored him for the post of C-n-C. The country as a consequence, would not have undergone the ensuring colossal tragedy of 1971. But that is a wishful afterthought.

    Ayub, who had appointed Musa as his first Army Chief and Yahya as the next (the appointment of first almost cost us West Pakistan in 1965 and under the next one we lost East Pakistan in 1971), would not have liked a general of Akhtar Malik’s stature to command the Pakistan Army. Tragic but true!

    Major General Akhtar Hussain Malik made a brilliant strike across Chamb-Jaurian sector. He out- manoeuvred the Indians. He captured Akhnoor and was approaching Tawai river. The enemy was dislodged and Indians were planning further withdrawal for they could not withstand the onslaught of General Akhtar Hussain Malik.

    It was reported that the Indian Prime Minister Lal Bahdur Shastri directed Indian Air Force to get Gen Akhtar Hussain Mailk at any cost. He was making daring use of Helicopter directing his force.

    Even an inveterate enemy of Ahmadis (Malik was an Ahmadi) – Shorish Kashmiri paid a tribute in an urdu couplet,

    "The Land of Delhi is calling, Oh friends, Extend a helping hand to Akhtar Malik, oh friends."

    Had Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik captured Jammu, The Kashmir Problem was automatically solved. The Indians would never been able to sustain their troops in landlocked Kashmir. And they would have to leave Kashmir.

    Field Marshal Ayub, who was the President of Pakistan at that time, knew what this victory would mean: It would catapult Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik in public eye.

    He wanted one of his cronies to take credit of this vital victory. He asked Gen Musa, the then Commander in Chief of Pakistan Army to take Gen Yahya by helicopter to Chamb-Jurian sector and ask Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik to hand over the command of the Operations.

    Gen Malik: "Why changing horses in midstream"?

    These are the orders of the boss. Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik handed over the command in utter disgust.

    Gen Sarfraz Khan who commanded Lahore sector in 1965 in an article in Daily Jang Lahore September 6, 1984 said about this military victory snatched out of the hands of Gen Malik.

    With what brilliant planning and bravery, Gen Akhtar Malik attacked Chamb, it can only be called a great victory. He was in position to capture Jurian as the enemy had been dislodged and they were to withdraw as further Pakistani advance was anticipated.

    But it was not allowed to happen, a plan was already made to make Gen Yahya take credit of this victory.

    The Indian Commander in Chef, General Chaudri, who was watching with dismay the crumbling defences of the Indian army in Chamb -Juraian sector, jumped upon the opportunity and launched an attack on Lahore.

    The whole game was over. Pakistan was now involved in its own battle of life and death.

    He would have gone on to be the man in charge and gone on to make us so damn proud but what a debacle this was.

    Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history-str