11th Hour (People Expectations On Welfare Centre Rather Than Govt!) 22nd August 2012



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  1. Mansoor Qadri says:

    PML N walay pagal ho gahay hai aj kal

    • chali says:

      inki lahore aur pungab se chuti honay wali hai

    • chaudry says:

      A REAL WAR HERO….

      I only came to know of Maj-General Akhtar Malik when my father told me that a Pakistani Maj-general was about to cut off the logistical supply route of the Indian army and achieve victory but was replaced with drunken bastard Yahya Khan. Yahya allowed the Indian to regroup and they went on to attack Lahore, what a travesty to let such a thing happen.

      I only got to know of his name on this forum and learnt that he was creating havoc in Akhnoor by traveling in a helicopter and the Indian army was in disarray but Ayub Khan replaced him with his favorite and the war changed shape. Here are a couple of article's about the incident.

      Operation Grand Slam -DAWN Magazine; November 27, 2005

      MODERN day war complicates rather than solves anything. A country goes to war either to defend its sovereignty in case of attack, or to overwhelm an adversary for political or territorial/material gains.

      The War in 1965 was undertaken by General Ayub not for the first reason. Similarly, Hitler started WWII in 1940, Suharto annexed Eastern Timor in 1975, Gen Galteiri occupied Falkland Islands in 1982, and Saddam invaded Kuwait in 1990 — all for personal glory and political gains. Bush invaded Iraq on March 19, 2003, for the black gold.

      In 1965, the plan ‘Operation Gibraltar' involved sneaking a mixed force of 70,000, trained and regulars, into Indian-held Kashmir and invoke a general uprising in the local populace. The general feeling in the army high command was that Indians had no stomach of warfare and were no match for the superior. The war plan originated in the Foreign Office. The D-day was set for August 5, 1965.

      Military high command took it to be as one blow, limited and confined operation, forgetting that war is not an isolated act and once started, it cannot be confined by time or space. Secondly, against defined and proclaimed logic, the military in Pakistan had taken over the political direction of the war.

      Our scope is limited to the operation conducted on the Kashmir front under Maj-General Akhtar Malik where, given the opportunity and time, Pakistan could have dictated terms to India on other fronts (‘unexpectedly') opened later by India. But it was not to be. Much has been written about the change in command in the 1965 War, when late Maj-General Akhtar Hussain Malik, Commander 12 Division which had the responsibility for Jammu and Kashmir, was replaced by Maj. Gen. Yahya Khan, Commander 7 Div, and Akhnur was let off the hook, thereby saving the Indian forces a huge embarrassment.

      Discussing the initial plans of ‘Operation Gibraltar', Ayub had put his finger at Akhnur across river Tawi, on the sand model asked: “But why don’t you go for the jugular?” General Malik asked for more money and men and Ayub readily agreed. (Altaf Gauhar, Ayub Khan Pakistan’s First Military Ruler’s Sange-meel Publications 1998 p.332)

      The attack on Akhnur was given the code name ‘Operation Grand Slam’, to be launched after the ‘Operation Gibraltar'. Gen Akhtar Malik was assigned this task as he knew the area like the back of his hand, and he was a bold and audacious commander.

      Gen. Malik had already captured Chamb on September 1, and was well poised to go for Akhnur on September 2, 1965 when he was relieved of command in a most bizarre mysterious manner, defying common sense and logic. Before Musa flew Malik back from the front, General Malik had offered his services to fight under Yahya’s command to take Akhnur.

      General Musa, the C-n-C, flew with Gen Yahya on the front on September 2, 1965 to replace General Malik who would not hand over charge otherwise. Yahya was specifically asked by Musa not to advance. A pause of 48 hours was enough for Indian forces to regroup and blunt the Pakistani advance. The Indians also opened another front on Lahore, thus spreading Pakistan Forces thin along the western border. Having lost the initiative, now Pakistan was fighting for its survival. One can lose a battle or even a war, but in Kashmir at that time, it was a victory lost.

      The prevailing view in GHQ was that Gen. Ayub had lost his nerve. (Altaf Gauhar p. 334) Shortly before his death, Bhutto had expressed similar views about Ayub, saying he used to panic during crises. (Col. Rafiuddin Bhutto kay akhri 323 din, Jang Publications 1992 p.61) Bhutto observed that Pakistan Army had yet to produce another fighting general of Akhtar Malik’s calibre and had Malik been allowed to advance in Chhamb-Jurian Sector, he would have played havoc with the Indian Forces. (Col Rafiuddin p.66)

      After the 1965 War, the talk on change of command in Kashmir became taboo but with death of Gen Musa, the subject was discussed threadbare. The ISPR floated the idea that the change of command in 1965 was pre-planned. Brig. Gul Hassan (late Lt. Gen. and Army Chief), at that time, Director Military Operations, in his memoirs, denied the existence of any such planned change of command during the execution of Operation Grand Slam.

      Secondly, Brig. Gul Hassan said he knew Gen. Malik well enough to say that he (Gen. Malik) would never have accepted a command for 24 hours for such a daunting assignment. What happened behind the scenes may never be known. (Lt. Gen Gul Hassan Akhri Commander-in-Chief, Dost Publications Isd. 1999 p.231-234)

      Gen. Ayub published his biography Friends Not Master in 1967 but he failed to cover the 1965 War, as it was not a glorious chapter of his life. He tried to gloss over history.

      As soon as Yahya took over from Musa as C-n-C in September 1966, he posted out Gen Malik on a CENTO assignment in Turkey. General Akhtar Malik died in 1969 in a car crash in Turkey. It could have been a target-assassination. General Malik had met the Jordanian Ambassador a few days earlier in Ankara. The Ambassador had asked General Malik to help upgrade the Jordanian Army, a job that was accepted by the latter.

      It could be Mossad for Israel didn’t want Jordan to acquire the services of a professional general (according to an ex-Army Officer who asked not to be revealed). Israel has been deeply involved in anything that affects its security, especially its neighbours. In 1980, Mossad had eliminated an Egyptian nuclear physicist, Dr Yahia El Meshad, in Paris who had been helping Iraq in setting up its nuclear plant. (Claire Hoy & Victor Ostrovsky By Way of Deception Stoddart Publishing Co.Ltd. Toronto 1990 p.23)

      According to officers who fought on Kashmir front, had General Malik been allowed to capture Akhnur, Ayub would not have ignored him for the post of C-n-C. The country as a consequence, would not have undergone the ensuring colossal tragedy of 1971. But that is a wishful afterthought.

      Ayub, who had appointed Musa as his first Army Chief and Yahya as the next (the appointment of first almost cost us West Pakistan in 1965 and under the next one we lost East Pakistan in 1971), would not have liked a general of Akhtar Malik’s stature to command the Pakistan Army. Tragic but true!

      Major General Akhtar Hussain Malik made a brilliant strike across Chamb-Jaurian sector. He out- manoeuvred the Indians. He captured Akhnoor and was approaching Tawai river. The enemy was dislodged and Indians were planning further withdrawal for they could not withstand the onslaught of General Akhtar Hussain Malik.

      It was reported that the Indian Prime Minister Lal Bahdur Shastri directed Indian Air Force to get Gen Akhtar Hussain Mailk at any cost. He was making daring use of Helicopter directing his force.

      Even an inveterate enemy of Ahmadis (Malik was an Ahmadi) – Shorish Kashmiri paid a tribute in an urdu couplet,

      "The Land of Delhi is calling, Oh friends, Extend a helping hand to Akhtar Malik, oh friends."

      Had Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik captured Jammu, The Kashmir Problem was automatically solved. The Indians would never been able to sustain their troops in landlocked Kashmir. And they would have to leave Kashmir.

      Field Marshal Ayub, who was the President of Pakistan at that time, knew what this victory would mean: It would catapult Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik in public eye.

      He wanted one of his cronies to take credit of this vital victory. He asked Gen Musa, the then Commander in Chief of Pakistan Army to take Gen Yahya by helicopter to Chamb-Jurian sector and ask Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik to hand over the command of the Operations.

      Gen Malik: "Why changing horses in midstream"?

      These are the orders of the boss. Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik handed over the command in utter disgust.

      Gen Sarfraz Khan who commanded Lahore sector in 1965 in an article in Daily Jang Lahore September 6, 1984 said about this military victory snatched out of the hands of Gen Malik.

      With what brilliant planning and bravery, Gen Akhtar Malik attacked Chamb, it can only be called a great victory. He was in position to capture Jurian as the enemy had been dislodged and they were to withdraw as further Pakistani advance was anticipated.

      But it was not allowed to happen, a plan was already made to make Gen Yahya take credit of this victory.

      The Indian Commander in Chef, General Chaudri, who was watching with dismay the crumbling defences of the Indian army in Chamb -Juraian sector, jumped upon the opportunity and launched an attack on Lahore.

      The whole game was over. Pakistan was now involved in its own battle of life and death.

      He would have gone on to be the man in charge and gone on to make us so damn proud but what a debacle this was.

      Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history-str

    • chaudry says:

      Now this is what i call a real hero of 1965 war….

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      Home Pakistan and Ahmadis An Ahmadi General — who saved Pakistan

      An Ahmadi General – who saved Pakistan

      Pakistan was invaded on September 6, 1965. Why it was invaded? Because an Ahmadi General was on the point of locking several Indian army divisions in Jammu and Kashmir.

      It was an amazing military feat. All these military operations were taking place in the disputed territory of Jammu and Kashmir and the "war" was only limited to the disputed territory.

      Major General Akhtar Hussain Malik made a brilliant strike across Chamb-Jaurian sector. He out- manoeuvred the Indians. He captured Akhnoor and was approaching Tawai river. The enemy was dislodged and Indians were planning further withdrawal for they could not withstand the onslaught of General Akhtar Hussain Malik.

      It was reported that the Indian Prime Minister Lal Bahdur Shastri directed Indian Air Force to get Gen Akhtar Hussain Mailk at any cost. He was making daring use of Helicopter directing his force.

      Even an inveterate enemy of Ahmadis – Shorish Kashmiri paid a tribute in an urdu couplet,

      "The Land of Delhi is calling, Oh friends, Extend a helping hand to Akhtar Malik, oh friends."

      Had Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik captured Jammu, The Kashmir Problem was automatically solved. The Indians would never been able to sustain their troops in landlocked Kashmir. And they would have to leave Kashmir.

      Field Marshal Ayub, who was the President of Pakistan at that time, knew what this victory would mean: It would catapult Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik in public eye.

      He wanted one of his cronies to take credit of this vital victory. He asked Gen Musa, the then Commander in Chief of Pakistan Army to take Gen Yahya by helicopter to Chamb-Jurian sector and ask Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik to hand over the command of the Operations.

      Gen Malik: "Why changing horses in midstream"?

      These are the orders of the boss. Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik handed over the command in utter disgust.

      Gen Sarfraz Khan who commanded Lahore sector in 1965 in an article in Daily Jang Lahore September 6, 1984 said about this military victory snatched out of the hands of Gen Malik.

      With what brilliant planning and bravery, Gen Akhtar Malik attacked Chamb, it can only be called a great victory. He was in position to capture Jurian as the enemy had been dislodged and they were to withdraw as further Pakistani advance was anticipated.

      But it was not allowed to happen, a plan was already made to make Gen Yahya take credit of this victory.

      The Indian Commander in Chef, General Chaudri, who was watching with dismay the crumbling defences of the Indian army in Chamb -Juraian sector, jumped upon the opportunity and launched an attack on Lahore.

      The whole game was over. Pakistan was now involved in its own battle of life and death.

      Here came the another hero of Pakistan army General Abdul Ali Malik.

      Indian Commander in Chief Gen Chaudri made a bet with foreign Journalists and invited them to have cocktails with him in Lahore Gymkhana on September 8, made another brilliant move, he attacked Sialkot with hundreds of tanks.

      India's plan was to make a direct thrust towards Wazirabad to capture commonly known GT Road and divide West Pakistan into two.

      GOC Sialkot lost his nerves and ordered withdrawal to Sambrial. However, he had an Ahmadi Brigadier, Gen Abdul Ali. He told the GOC he would meet enemy right here at Chawinda and would not yield an inch of Pakistan soil. This Ahmadi had faith in Allah and the courage of his soldiers.

      It was the most crucial battle of the whole war, where Indian tanks battled with Pakistan tanks. Gen Abdul Ali gave no quarter to the enemy, the tenacity and the bravery and superior skill in deployment of his tanks triumphed. Indian tanks fell back.

      According to some reports, two thousands tanks on either side took part in it.

      Battle of Chawinda is considered as the greatest tank battle after the battle of El Alameen fought by Field Marshal Montgomery with Field Marshal Rommel (the top German General).

      This battle captured such a wide attention in Pakistan that Majlis Ulema Islam in book "Maa'rika Haq-o-ba'til" (the Battle of truth and falsehood), it carried an urdu couplet:

      When Abdul Ali was commanding the Ghazis, it appeared as if Abdul Ali was raging like a storm.

      This is how two Ahmadi brothers – General Akhtar Hussain Malik and Gen Abdul Ali gave their best to the defence of Pakistan.

      There are others, like Brigadier Iftikhar Janjua who distinguished in Rann of Katch, and Gen Iftikhar Janjua who distinguished in the Battle of Hilli in East Pakistan and scores of others Ahmadi Colonels and majors.

      This bravery and selfless desire to defend the motherland was not confined to Army alone.

      In a book, Air battle of Pakistan commissioned by then Air Marshal Nur Khan, there are references to Ahmadi Pilots. According to Air commodore (later Air Marshal) Abdur Rahim a dangerous Air mission was planned and volunteers were asked and it was clear that it is possible none of the pilots would be able to come back, among dozens of officers only five pilots volunteered and all of them were Ahmadis and all of them returned safely after the mission was accomplished.

      This may sound astounding but events indicate that in every operation whether planning or combat in which there was a semblance of success, there was or were Ahmadis involved. Ahmadis performed their duties in a manner which make them feel humble and grateful to Allah for having afforded them this opportunity to serve Islam and Pakistan.

  2. sunlight123 says:

    It is not a easy task to collect huge amount of money all over the world and build such a state of the art cancer hospital and free treatment for poor peoples ,hundred time salute to IK for this great achievement ,I ask Rana Sanaullah(PML N) to build a small masque by collecting donations, no body will give to him a single penny.In fact PML N and PPP are upset with the gaining popularity of PTI, now they are playing dirty politic ,but God is great these evil forces will be defeated and truth will prevail.One thousand time shame on PML N. Inshalla PTI will sweep the election and change will come. Pakistan zindabad, IMRAN KHAN zindabad. PTI zindabad.

  3. batan says:

    RANA . ye bata moterway . noora bro ne bapu ke mal se banai thi ? atom bom raiwind meen beeth kar noora bro ne banaia tha . danish school labtop peeli taxi noora bro ne apni jeeb se mal ada kia . lahore ki sarkeen chacha sharif marhoom ke mal se banwaieen . o rana tumare cm ne to akhri shadi bi hamare mal se ki thi . ager imran khan ne skh banaia hey to wo hi us ki dekh bhal bi karey ga . tum kete ho imran khan skh se alehda ho jai yani sab kuch tumare hawaley kar dey wah wah . billy ko chichrey ka khoab ……. RANI (sharmila ) ye batao aj imran khan skh se asteefa deta hey to skh kese chaley ga jihan har saal 2 arb rupi ki zaroort hey . khan dar bader dhakey khata phirta hey kis liye .gareeb mareezon ke waste . skh ka kharcha zardari de sakta hey . us ka apna peet naheen bharta to gareeb ki madad kia karey ga lehaza fazool bateen choro tum log maro ge to ALHA ko kia jwab do ge

  4. n.faisal says:

    Cho cho cho chacha media pa choa nacha

    khuja asif na ek Laga ya choa nicha a ya.

  5. adan says:

    WELLDONE IBRAR NOORA LEAUGE…..BIGHI BILLI KHAMBA NOCHAY

  6. Khan Baba says:

    MY 99.99 % FRIENDS ARE WITH PTI.

    I THINK PTI WILL KICK PPP AND PMLN OUT OF PAKISTAN.

  7. waqas ranjha says:

    kehty hain na jo garjty hain wo barasty nahi…PML,N apne kartoot nhai batati even jo 2sron ne acha kiya hai usko highlight karty hain….really..very sad…in par tanqeed banti hai PMLN kyun k in ko hum baae ha dekh chuky hain inho ne kuch nhai kiya..but PTI is voice of our heart now..we love PTI and IMRAN KHAN…n well speker ABRAR ULL HAQQ

  8. nadiramazing says:

    Rana sanaullah to siasat chamkanay kay lea Dr. QADIR KHAN ko bhi nae bakshta.

    Ye salook kia jata hay national heros kay sath?

  9. nadiramazing says:

    Ibrar ul haq ki is mulk kay lea bohat khidmaat hain. Yehi loog hain jinhoon nay is mulk ke achi side bhi dikhai hay. Rana sanullah jaisay loogon nay kia dia hay is mulk ko. iA Ibrar ul haq dramay-ala ko lahore main hara kar PMLN ke munafiqat ke siasat ko humaisha kay lea khatam kar ay ga.

  10. n.faisal says:

    Nuch Pangabon Nuch Pangabon Nuch Pangabon Nuch Pangabon Nuch Pangabon Nuch Pangabon Nuch Pangabon Nuch Pangabon Nuch Pangabon

    Inqalab Inqalab Inqalab Inqalab Inqalab Inqalab Inqalab Inqalab.

  11. sana malik says:

    PLMN Pagal ho gai hy…

    Thanks God in ka asli roop samnay aa gya..

    Warna ye bray frishtay bantay thay…

  12. faroooOO says:

    pml-n walo ye baath ghoor say sunlo.., tabdele anni nahi hay, TABDELE AGAE HAY.. AB LAHORE JAAG GAYA HAY..,

    ME N MY OTHER 4 FAMILY MEMBERS VOTE IS ONLY N ONLY FOR PTI..

    SIR IMRAN KHAN NE PAKISTAN KO WO SAB KUCH DEYA HAY JO YE CORRUPT OR NA-EHEL GOVT. KABHI NAHI DESAKTI..

    MY VOTE IS FOR CHANGE, MY VOTE IS FOR PTI..

  13. warraich1853 says:

    i live in punjab. i am pakistani. yeh beech main punjab ka thekedar mirza kaun si chawal hai jo pmln ko vote dalney ka keh rehi hai. MY AND MY FAMILY MY FRIENDS,MY NEIGHBERS AND FROM MY VILLAGE MIGARITY OF VOTES WILL GO TO PTI.GREAT LEADER IMRAN KHAN.AUR BADAMI SAHIB YEH SKMH BANANA HER INSAN K BAS KA KAM NEHI SO YEH KEH DENA K IMRAN AB IS SE ALAG HO JAEY YEH BILKOL FAZOOL SE BAAT HAI

  14. riaz127 says:

    IMPORTANT PLEASE READ !!!!!!

    USA ne jab PPP ki Government banayi tu N-League ne 4 years Opposition iss ly nahi ki K USA Naraz ho jae ga.

    N-League ne Last year jab Opposition start ki tu Turkey k Prime Minister ( Tayyab Urdagan ) Pakistan aye and Nawaz Sharif se 1-on-1 mulaqat ki, uss k baad Nawaz Sharif Ka Mouth band hai.

    I don’t know ” N-League Walay Pakistan k logon ki representation karty hain ya phir USA, Saudia and Turkey jesey Aqaon k Mufadaat ka tahafuz karty hain. ”

    IMRAN KHAN ZINDABAAD.

  15. M.I.Shahzad says:

    PML-N is in power for the 5th term, how many terms PTI had till now? PML-N is saying that PTI shall display its examples in political history, are the trying to fool us or are they so innocent to ask this question when PTI has no political power in the past like PML-N had. Imran Khan can only refer to the greatest successes he has been able to achieve which nobody in this world can deny. And there is no harm in telling people about good things done by him. PML-N is corrupt and it is written on their face.

  16. M_I_Ali says:

    کس قسم کے بیہودہ لوگ ہیں یہ مسلم لیگ نون والے؛

    ابرار پر یہ پھبتی کسنا کہ کہ: ایک وہ ھے جو گانے گاتا پھرتا ھے اور چندے جمع کرتا پھرتا ہے؟

    کیا اسے کوئی تنقید کہہ سکتا ھے ۔ تنقید تو کسی غلط کام کی مناسب طریقے سے نشاندہی کا نام ھے۔ جو پھبتیاں پی ام ایل این والے کررھے ھیں، یہ تنقید نہیں، بازاری انداز میں جملے کسنا ھے۔ امریکہ کا صدر رونلڈ ریگن ایک فلمی اداکار تھا، اسی طرح کیلیفورنیا کا گورنر مشہور زمانہ ایکشن اداکار آرنلڈ شواڈزنیگر ھے۔ ان لوگوں کی تو جنرل نالج ہی کچھ نہیں، تو پھر اسی طرح کے بازاری جملے ہی کسیں گے۔

    دوسری بات: کہ سب لوگوں نے پیسے دیئے ہیں تو آپ کا کیا کارنامہ ھے: یہ اعتراض تو پہلے اعتراض سے بھی زیادہ احمقانہ ھے، پہلی بات تو یہ کہ لوگ پیسے سڑکوں پر پھینک دیتے ہیں کیا؟ در در کی ٹھوکریں کھانے کے بعد، لوگوں سے بحث و تمہید کے بعد کہیں چندہ جمع ھوتا ھے، اچھا، پھر کیا چندہ جمع کرنے کے بعد آٹومیٹک ہی کوئی ادارہ بن جاتا ھے؟ کتنی جانفشانی اور محنت کی جاتی ھے، کیا کیا پلاننگ کی جاتی ھے، تنظیم و تعمیر کی کتنے مراحل دے گذرنا پڑتا ھے، یہ ان کو بخوبی پتہ ھے، انسان کی پوری زندگی کھپ جاتی ھے، اور یہ لوگ ڈکار مار کر بونگیاں مار دیتی ھیں کہ پیسے تو سب نے دیئے ہیں؟

    پھر شرمیلا کیتہ ہیں کہ عمران خان کو بورڈ آف گورنر کی صداریت سے استعفٰی دے دینا چاہیئے، اگر ایسا ھو گیا تو دیکھنا کہ دو دن بھی یہ ہسپتال نہیں چل پائے گا، لوگ اداروں کو پیسہ نہیں دیتے، لوگ کاز کو، اور باعتماد، ایماندار، اور قابل شخصیات کو پیسہ دیتے ہیں، یہ سیاستدان خود تو کچھ بھی نہ کرسکے، بڑی سے بڑی کرپشن اور بلنڈر سامنے آجابے کے بعد بھی خود استعفٰی نہیں دیتے، اور مطالبی اس شخڈ سے کرتے ہیں کہ جس نے اپنا خاندان اور عمر کا پہترین حصہ اس کام میں صرف کردیا؟ ان کی اس سوچ پر لعنت ھے

  17. Touqeer khokhar says:

    G! Ibrar-ul-Haq kafi Shoor kr rhy han ,in k Qreeby or janeny waly halqun me in ki babet kya kaha jata ha is ka andaza isi se lgaya ja skta ha, k Abi Pichly he season(zakat Ikethee krny k Season) me Mausuf uk me Ikethee ki gaee Zakat me se £10000/= Juwwey me har gaey or yahan ki 1 social personalty Muhammad Masroor Mian sb, k samny dikhany ko roty rhy

  18. Schawkur says:

    PTI rocks in the hearts of Pakistanis living in Pakistan and abroad.

    Safely, 90% plus are with PTI.

    This shows how much upset Pakistanis are due to the current worst situation Pakistan is suffering from.

    Pakistanis are fed up with the corrupt status quo parties (Mukbara Party (PPP), Brainless Ganja Party (PMLN), Islam-farosh Maulvi Diesel Party, Mafroor Altaf Paan Pichkari Party, Gujrat’s Kaatil League & Asfund Nuswaar Party).

  19. GoodDeedsLeadTo says:

    I think all politicians should completely disclose all personal assets including earnings, income taxes paid, funds transferred, means used to transfer funds, loans defaulted, disputed property handed over to banks, names used for ownership of property, instead of getting offended.

    I think specially politicians who have held pubic office lose their right to refuse public disclosure, because they are public representatives, entrusted with public trust. So, getting offended at being challenged to reconcile income taxes paid with personal incomes & property purchased, should not be an issue.

  20. GoodDeedsLeadTo says:

    Highest income tax is around 33 percent in America for those who earn couple of hundred thousand dollars, no body pays 65 percent income tax.

    Income taxes generally falls between 15 percent to 25 percent in America.

    Income taxes are 65 percent or more in countries like Canada & Scandinavian countries.

    America is not a welfare state,. Canada & Scandinavian countries are.

  21. mohd naeem khan says:

    IMRAN KHAN PTI AND IBRAR UL HAQ ZINDABAD WE LOVE PTI AND VOTE PTI WE WANT CHANGE IN PAKISTAN ONLY PTI CHANGE, WE KNOW PPP AND PML-N SUCK PEOPLE TAX MONEY SHAME SHAME SHAME, IMRAN KHAN IS LAST HOPE HE IS THE HERO

  22. Abidi2012 says:

    Good example of the shallowness of PML-N leaders. They are wiling to go to any extend to generate cheap publicity. This also indicates the fear of PPP and PML-N in the coming elections. PTI shall win come what may, the days of Zardari ignorance and Nawaz halwa puri are over. Rana Sana Ullah is a long list of incompetant leaders who have excelled in an evironmet of corruption. He is a true face of PML-N where lies and deceit is considered competance. PPP & PML-N will go in the drain of history just as water suveril down from a flush tank. Read the writing on the wall, Rana Sanaullah your days are numbered, people like you will soon jump the ship of PML-N.

  23. abidali says:

    Rana has no rationale. He is adamant to continue allegations against SKMH. Pathetic and rustic people in conventional parties. PML has been damaged badly by people of this calibre.

    • calico says:

      They have nothing to show………..Just look at Govt.Services in Punjab and Grade it ????

      Child labor……………………………………….yes

      Clean water………………………………………No

      Education………………………………………….No

      Electricity………………………………………..No

      Elite….Corruption/Oversees Properties………….Yes

      Food…………………………………………….…No

      Gas…………………………………………………No

      Hospital ……………………………………………No

      Jobs…………………………………………………No

      Power Dynasty…………………………………….Yes

      Slave Labor………………………………………..Yes

      Social security……………………………………No

      Tax poor’s………………………………………..Yes

      Unemployment Assistance……………………….No

  24. Yasir Rizwan says:

    vote for PTI vote for imran khan for a bettre Pakistan.

    Ibrar-ul-haq………very nice to listen you.

    Shaukat Khanum siraf Imran khaan ky naam sy jaana jataa hai…….

    es main koee shak nahi ky ye edaara waaqee pakistani qom ky liye hai.

    Pakistan zinda baad……PTI zinda baad.

  25. GoodDeedsLeadTo says:

    what is different & special about Shaukat Khanm is that most of the patients do not pay, by some account 70 percent, unlike other hospitals, and staff treats all patients equal, don't even know.

    Shaukat Khanum & Numul University are his best examples to show to the world that he has the capability to successfully run mega operations as institutions. So there is a justification to use Shaukat hanum & Numul as examples, and PMLN should not criticize him on this, in fairness.

  26. young tigers says:

    abrar khusray aur imran juari jasay marasi aaj medea aur zakat firay kay paisay kay bal par is qom kay leader bannay kay khwab dekh rahay hein qiyamat ki nishaniyan hein in bhikariyon ko aaj bheek dena band kardo tau in ki party bhi gum five star hotlon mein naach ganay aur sharab ki mehfilen bhi khatam aur chartered planes par sair spatay bhi khatam ho jayen gay.

    jab dusron par yeh jhootay, apnay yahudi aaqaon kay kehnay par jhutay ilzam saboot kay baghair lgatay hein tau baray khush hotay hein lekin in ki sachi ghalazat par say jab parda sarkay tau ronay lagtay hein

    abrar marasi apnay pehlay ganay kay baad wali khuari bhool gaya kia tu kia insaf dilwaye ga apni pehli amman sita white aur teray najaez bapp imran ki hram ki aulad un ki beti aur teri sagi behan ko tau insaf dilwaday harami…..

    donon ka tau lagta hay bas yehi sapna ram ram japna paraya maal apna…..kuttay

    andhp kay baytay ankhein khol kar dekh is mulk mein kitnay hospital aur rafahi idaray gum nam log chala tahay hein sir rub ki raza kay liye aur aik tum log ho chichoray aur ochay rayakar dikhawa karnay walay bay sharam

  27. Mohammad Zaheeruddin says:

    This Sanaullah or Mushahidullah or any other Ullahs of PMLN pakistan, are a gang of thugs and technically illiterate buffoons…they have No argument to stand, yet they talk talk and talk. Doesn't Nawaz Shareef take the credit for building the Highway or becoming a Nuclear power (whereas, in fact, he has No credit in this particular regard), so why shouldn't Imran Khan take the credit for Shaukat Khanum Hospital? As a matter of fact, he single handedly took the task to its fruitful completion. This is the difference between a talker and a doer…

    • orakzai110 says:

      plzz Alalh k naam ka mazak na urhao

      thopugh i know its done in mistke but agan

      Mushaid he kehd aity

      DAM ON U

      DAM ON U GANJY TAKLO PMLN

    • calico says:

      Grade yourself Nawaz/Zardari services be honest…………….

      Child labor……………………………………….yes

      Clean water………………………………………No

      Education………………………………………….No

      Electricity………………………………………..No

      Elite….Corruption/Oversees Properties………….Yes

      Food…………………………………………….…No

      Gas…………………………………………………No

      Hospital ……………………………………………No

      Jobs…………………………………………………No

      Power Dynasty…………………………………….Yes

      Slave Labor………………………………………..Yes

      Social security……………………………………No

      Tax poor’s………………………………………..Yes

      Unemployment Assistance……………………….No

  28. a gowher says:

    Where are these two idiots Zulfiqar Mirza and Hanif Abbasi, it appears that both big mouths at one time are gone into hiding.

    Friend of mine was looking for Mirza in Dallas TX but he could not be found.

    Looking at his past record I just told my friend to look for him in some strip Club in Dallas.

    I feel sorry for my country for electing these two crooks and thieves as their leaders..

  29. pti.is.a.must says:

    wat a senseless logics from sanaullah. why shouldnt imran talk about his efforts and achievements in other fields? if a person is new in politics is he not allowed to tell u wat he has done in past and wat were the results? koi naya admi aa ker kya kahe? ''mein aa gya hoon ab mujhe vote de do?'' who is gona vote for such a person even if he is the best? pti is giving u people who have been successful in their respective fields and it tells u that if they work together they can give u better policies and better governance becoz they have done good in past. koi naya politician aa ker kya bole k mujhe vote do mein falaa ka beta hoon? falaa ka bhateeja hoon? falaa ka damad hoon? yehi reason reh gayi hain kisi ko vote dene ki? jaise abid sher ali, hamza shahbaz, captain safdar, bilawal bhutto etc etc.

    1947 mein pakistan bana aur tum apne jalsoo mein kehte ho pakistan hamari party ne banaya, 1976 mein atomic energy commission bana aur tum 1998 mein aik button daba ker uss ka credit lete ho k pakistan ko atomic power humne banaya, aur doosre ko yeh bhi nahin kehne dete k meine hospital banaya?

    tum per objection na kare imran, cricket team ya shokat khanum ya namal ka ziker na kare. to tum batao syasat kis tarah kare? bus tumhari popularity k liye nawaz shareef k sath mil jaye aur wohi nawaz dubara humme loot ker kha jaye?

    • young tigers says:

      imran zakat kay pason say bhi jua khetay ho baysharam.jab kabhi apnay dum par koi kam karo tau us ka dhandora zaroor peetna chichoray zamin funds aur facilitate koi aur karay sari qom usay banay aur nam tu rakhay apni amman ka teri amman ka kia laga hay ia ka nam qom kay nam par rakh fitray zakat khana chor day

      tu apna ghar tau chala na saka khush asloobi say tu aur kiya kar sakta hay dunya mein

      yahudi bachay…………………………………….

      • calico says:

        Yahudi Lobby supported Corrupt Mafia, Zardari/Nawaz through NRO……and they replicated the same method by appointing corrupt Political poodles, in various industries to robe and buy properties in Europe.

        http://www.zemtv.com/2012/08/18/nawaz-sharifs-dir

        Nawaz is a sexual Shaitan high on Kushtas/Steroids, he sexually harassed a Jewish journalist, Kim barker, and also broke many marriages in Pakistan by abusing position of power, pervert…. Singer…T, Aisha etc

      • pti.is.a.must says:

        kahan hai sana bucha? bulao uss ko aur dikhao k hum to tv anchors ko gali dete hain na, yeh pmln wale aik marhoom aurat , aik national hero aur aik cancer hospital ko bhi nahin chorte. shabash young tiger tera khuda (nawaz shareef) khush ho ga teri performance se. kabar mein issi nawaz shareef kay farishtey, sanaullah n mushahidullah aayein ge tere se hisaab lene

    • calico says:

      PML/PPP have nothing to show but…….. Corruption, Mayfair, Surrey Mahel, Money Laundering, kick backs, nepotism, contracts to friends and getting rich themselves.

      What about Public……….???????????????????????????

      Child labor……………………………………….yes

      Clean water………………………………………No

      Education………………………………………….No

      Electricity………………………………………..No

      Elite….Corruption/Oversees Properties………….Yes

      Food…………………………………………….…No

      Gas…………………………………………………No

      Hospital ……………………………………………No

      Jobs…………………………………………………No

      Power Dynasty…………………………………….Yes

      Slave Labor………………………………………..Yes

      Social security……………………………………No

      Tax poor’s………………………………………..Yes

      Unemployment Assistance……………………….No

  30. malikchand says:

    ab kuch bhi hoo or koi kuch bhi kahey apna vote to pti ka hi hai ..or ye nakli muchoon wala insan rana or nora leeg kehti hai ke imraaan ne apni takreer mein kaha ke hospital mein ne banaya hai iss liye ham ne hospital ko nishana banaya hai or sath hi dosri taraf kehtey hain ke nahi hamney tu shukat h hospital ko bchaney ki koshash ki hai ….. wha re nora leeg ki noriannnnnn ab hamein koi bhi nora ya uski nori change laney se ya PTI KO VOTE DENEY SE NAHI ROOK SAKTI

  31. naseer_491 says:

    سپشل برانچ نے ہمیں کہا تھا کہ خودکش حملے کا خطرہ ہے لیکن عمران پھر بھی میرے جلسے میں آیا – شیخ رشید

  32. Mirza says:

    Punjab kee awam PML kay saath thee hai or rahay gee.

    • Fearless says:

      ha ha haaaa.. Joke of the day lolz

    • pti.is.a.must says:

      mein bhi punjab ki awam hoon. chowk mein mera ser kaat do phir bhi pmln ko vote nahin doo ga

      • Mirza says:

        tera VOTE manga kis nay hai bay ??

        hum MQM day DHESHAT GARD nai kay khoon kharaba karain :)

        • pti.is.a.must says:

          tu bhi apni baat ker na, lahore to sambhalal nahi jaa raha aur punjab ki awam ki baat karte ho. sindh mein tumhare daddy ussi benazir ko behen bana rahe hain vote ki bheek k liye jis ki nakli nangi tasveerein khud bana ker pmln ne poore punjab mein taqseem ki thi. uss wakt daddy kehte thay k sharabi admi ki club main nachnay wali beti aik islamic country ko kaise sambhal sakti hai, aaj wohi behen ban gayi? aur zardari sahab jeeja jee. lol

      • pakespana says:

        main be punjabi hun imran ka fan hun lekan vote for PML N imran ko vote mill sakta he millege lekan jo chor enter hogey hey punjab ke lug vote nahi dey IK good parson allways

    • zafars says:

      hahahahah you are amazing mr. Mirza the people of punjab hate pmln after what pmln did to them in the last 4 and a half years :)

  33. D Lahoree says:

    Ibrar ul Haq is looking light a small baby have a big lolly pop and become so excited

    • saleem says:

      vote for PTI

    • mohammed rafiq says:

      RANA SANAULLA INTELLECTUALLY YOU LOOK VERY STUPID MAN. HOW EVER I DONT BLAME YOU, YOUR WHOLE PARTY BELONG TO CLOWNS AND MONKEYS.

      • truth says:

        PTI was made in Heaven and all its members are Angles.

        • pti.is.a.must says:

          no we never claim all that. but we get hurt when u r willing to forgive zardari and nawaz for their billions n billions of corruption, for attacking supreme court, for their all u turns and betrayals, but u cant stop questioning imran about an investment a board made in a business, and imran was not even member of that board and owner of that company came on ur national tv to tell u that he has gauranteed the money. u build such a hype over a non issue thing without caring that a cancer hospital can b at risk. when we see all this from ur side then we r forced to think that r u sincere with pakistan, or u only sincere to nawaz shareef n zardari? koi daleel le ker aao hum jawab dein ge, but gali k jawab mein gali hi mile gi. fazool allegations k jawab mein hum tumhari akal per afsos hi karein ge

  34. sajidgwa says:

    ZAM ZAM SAB KITNAY PASAY MILTY HAIN APP KO ISS KAM KAY YAR AGAR HO SAKAY TOO MUJAY CONTRACT DILA WA DO YA COPY PASTE KA

  35. Mo says:

    bhaee baidami saab baidam ka halwa sola sua rupia kilo hai ab apka ye program dekhne ke ley to kam az kam ager sau gram bhi khaya jae to wo bhi aik sau sath ka parh ta hai to yar hamare jese logon ki phonch se bhaut door hai lehaza hame to apne is program se mauf hi rahen.

  36. zamzam says:

    Mubarik ho Mubarik mubarik P-O-TI k ik or umeedwar mil gaya ha,,,Abrarul Haq gana gaya ga or ya nacha gi (Zara Akber),,,Change a gaya Pakistan main,,,,Mubarik ho mubarik ho,,,

    Dosto cheetaha Mubashar gumnam ko P-O-TI waloon na dubara support kerna shuru ker dia ha,,Bashermi ki b koie intaha hoti ha,,,,Lannti,,,

    Not only political wrong peoples going to one party P-O-TI,,,+ Media k genda loog bhi,,,Like (Mubashra luqman,,,Aamir liaqet+Hassan nisar) etc. and gehnda tareen loog from show biz coming soon to joining P-O-TI (Veena Malik) Ha haaaaaa,,,

    kia P-O-TI and MQM ithad karain gi,,,Kioonka MQM k paid anchors seb P-O-TI main ja raha hain,,,Mubashar luqman,,,Aamir liaqet,,,Hassn nisar,,,Or kuch PPP k paid b P-O-TI ko bara support ker raha hain,,,

    Shuker ha ALLAH k saeed bahi aisa loogon sa ddoor hain or ALLAH K deen ki khidmet ker raha hain,,,or is jhooti or munafqet ki siyset sa door hain,,,,

    Kia weqt ho ga jeb Aamir liaqet and Mubashar luqman sath sath + Haroon rasheed sahib,,,Javed hashmi + sheikh rasheed+ SMQ+IK sath sath,,,Veena malik + Mufti Qawi sath sath,,,,Ya PTI raha b k kuch mixer ben jia ga,,,Kuch bahayi ki hed ko phencha hua hain,,,Kuch islam k naam per Logoon ko bawaqoof banata raha hain,,,Kuch Khara such sunata raha hain,,,Malik riaz k sath mil ker,,,,SC,,,Ya imran khan kia ker raha ha,,,Ik taraf ya adaltoon ko tareef kerta ha dusri taraf her wo insan ka ya sath bath raha ha jinhoon na adaltoon ko galian deen,,,Seikh rasheed mubashar luqman,,,,ALLAH rahem kara hamara mulak per.

    • calico says:

      Shirmeela slut and her father have pleaded guilty in corruption case ;(Ansar abbassi), therefore, she is well qualified to represent PPP in talk shows. This shameless creep has no remorse, She bought these clothes from ill-gotten money.

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